 Chefs with Issues is a platform for chefs and farmers we love, fired up for causes about which they're passionate. Virginia Willis, a graduate of L'Academie de Cuisine and Ecole de Cuisine LaVarenne, is the author of "Bon Appétit, Y’all" and "Basic to Brilliant, Y'all." As a chef and food writer, I rarely eat fast food. The quality is generally atrocious and much of it is radically unhealthy. The menu offerings are the polar opposite of local and seasonal. There are dire implications concerning worker’s rights and wages, as well as animal welfare and factory farms. It doesn’t matter where you are in the country, every interstate exit is identical with the same usual suspects offering the same sad sacks of chemically laced, artificially flavored fare, all swimming in high-fructose corn syrup. Cheap, fast food is at the core of what is wrong with our food system. Yet, there’s one thing that trumps my French-training and chef sensibilities; I love Chick-fil-A. My favorite sandwich is the classic fried chicken sandwich on the buttered bun. The steam from the slightly sweet, golden brown chicken condenses inside the foil-lined package and wilts the bread, just enough. I prefer plain, no lettuce, no tomato, just mayonnaise, and the perfect pop of sour pickle. I’ve always known that founder Truett Cathy was a religiously conservative Christian. I applaud the fact that he’s closed on Sundays and strong in his faith. The outlets are part of the local community, supporting the schools and sports teams. I admire the work of Chick-fil-A’s WinShape Foundation in regards to foster homes, scholarships and education, food donations for disaster relief, first responders and the military. Service, volunteering and giving back are at the heart of Chick-fil-A, qualities I aspire to, advocate and admire. I, too, am a Christian. I am also a lesbian. And while many religious conservatives think I am going to burn in hell and my existence is a crime against nature, I refuse to believe that God doesn’t love me because I am gay. I refuse to believe that God made a mistake. I refuse to believe that something is wrong with me and I need “conversion therapy.” I refuse to call those anti-same sex marriage groups "pro-family" because that doesn’t include my very real family, my love and my commitment to my partner. I also absolutely refuse to believe that if I choose to marry another woman that I am somehow harming the institution of marriage. Controversy erupted last summer with Chick-fil-A president and chief operating officer Dan Cathy's remarks about being against gay marriage, “guilty as charged.” It led to Mike Huckabee’s crusade, Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day and the subsequent boycott of Chick-fil-A by gay, lesbian and like-minded individuals, myself included. The Chick-fil-A website states that the corporate giving has been “mischaracterized.” Well, there’s nothing “mischaracterizing” about their – now former – funding of the ultra-conservative groups such as Family Research Council, Eagle Forum and Exodus International, all aggressively anti-homosexual. Just this week, gay rights organization Campus Pride issued a statement claiming that Chick-fil-A gave the organization's executive director, Shane Windmeyer, access to recent Chick-fil-A tax documents. After reviewing the company's 2011 and 2012 financials – which have not been released publicly – Windmeyer said Chick-fil-A no longer gives funds to “the most divisive anti-LGBT groups.” For a long time, I cast a blind eye towards Chick-fil-A's corporate giving and, through my patronage, contributed to the very religious conservative groups that abhor my existence. Ah, the power of a chicken sandwich. But, when it all came to a head last summer, I could no longer ignore it. I quit supporting Chick-fil-A and said farewell to my favorite beverage, the perfect thirst-quenching combination of a half-and-half tea. The truth is that Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day was not about freedom of speech. It was simply a thinly veiled protest against homosexuals, period. Those swarms of conservatives weren’t lining up around the block getting waffle fries and chicken sandwiches to protest such lofty ideals as upholding the constitution and protecting the First Amendment. I believe they were showing that they are united against same-sex marriage and against gays, in general. So, earlier this week I drew a shallow breath of relief when the news surfaced that Chick-fil-A wasn’t as aggressively homophobic and had quit funding the groups. The company website states, “Our intent is not to support political or social agendas.” The recent news may have influenced me subconsciously stopping and picking up a half-and-half tea just this very morning, the first I’ve had since summer. I enjoyed it thoroughly, but going forward, I’m honestly not certain what I will do - if I will continue my renewed patronage of Chick-fil-A or not. Truthfully, I now have a bit of a bitter taste in my mouth and sadly, my once perfect half-and half tea just doesn’t taste as sweet. Previously - Opinion: Why I’m celebrating Chick-fil-Gay Appreciation Day and Fast food with a side of faith and Chicken and politics |
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I'm very impressed by the author's ability to read the minds and know the hearts of those who support Chick-fil-A. As a member of a group that accuses others of stereotyping and ignorant judgment, she states that all those who showed up to support Chick-fil-A only did so to protest homosexuality. So, anyone who supports Chick-fil-A is a homophobe. She knows their intentions. It is exactly that kind of prejudice (pre-judging) that is cited as the central problem of anyone who does not support homosexual marriage or homosexuality in general. The writer, in an attempt to point out the ignorance of those who stand in opposition to her lifestyle ( which they have the constitutional right to do), has shown both her ignorance and prejudice.
moronic-everyone knew that Chik Fil A gave millions ot anti-gay groups-even thousands to the "kill the gays" group in Uganada. You CHOSE to still eat there-shoving it in millions of gay peoples' faces. You and anyone else who celebrated that hateful company IS A BIGOT. End of story. At least own your bigotry, coward.
They don't want to own it. They want it considered acceptable and normal so they don't have to feel the shame of introspect the rest of America is forcing on them. They KNOW they are bigots. The reminder that this makes them a taboo, outcast portion of society viewed as backwards and evil, is what really bugs them.
Project much?
If you want projection, Aaron, turn on Fox News when they're complaining that teachers are "indoctrinating" students.
I am simply calling a spade a spade because someone has to do it.
The Tony Perkins-led FRC said it did lobby on the bill, but not to kill it – rather to change the language it contained and to remove sweeping and inaccurate assertions that homosexual conduct is internationally recognized as a fundamental human right.
FRC did not lobby against or oppose passage of the congressional resolution. FRC's efforts, at the request of Congressional offices, were limited to seeking changes in the language of proposed drafts of the resolution, in order to make it more factually accurate regarding the content of the Uganda bill.
FRC does not support the Uganda bill, and does not support the death penalty for homosexuality – nor any other penalty which would have the effect of inhibiting compassionate pastoral, psychological, and medical care and treatment for those who experience same-sex attractions or who engage in homosexual conduct.
What? So you mean the story about Chick-Fil-A supporting gay-killing is complete and utter hogwash? Of course it is. Do you expect any of the many websites to print retractions? No, you don't.
Unless you've stopped buying gas from OPEC countries which oppose even the discussion of gays and condone death as punishment - and you didn't vote for the party that endorsed the gay-killing Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt - shush.
"I'm gay, can I eat at Chik-fil-A now?" What kind of question is that? Has the chain ever denied gays service, like a gay bar did to me and some friends in New York once? Typical hypocritical lap-dog liberals
you are 100% correct.......nice post
they didn't deny service-they just paid millions to have gays denied rights and, in Uganda, have them, killed. Sorry you werent attractive enough to be served in a gay bar-we must maintain a standard
So Norman – I cant help but laugh at your post. You are clearly part of the problem and the sad part is you do not even see it. So opinionated, misinformed, hateful, closed minded and ignorant.
That bar was obviously a keen observer. They had you pegged as a royal a hole right from the start.
I'm sincerely amazed that that's how you interpreted that question. I interpreted it as a question the author was asking herself...she clearly has been thinking about the issue, trying to reconcile her feelings about the restaurant (which does indeed make an awesome sandwich) and her feelings about LGBT equality. That's a question many people have asked themselves since all this started. Given your "typical liberal" bit at the end of your post, I can't help but think you heard what you wanted to hear and not what actually got said.
As for the bar that wouldn't serve you and your straight friends, I don't know a single person who would support such a thing. I know numerous LGBT people who might think "C'mon, this is our sanctuary, couldn't you maybe have gone somewhere else?" and I sympathize with that. But discrimination is wrong and your suggestion that liberals as a group would support it is terribly offensive.
Unless you were denied service for being straight at a gay bar in New York, I don't think your point is very salient. In fact you are being kind of disingenuous. The writer is not asking if they are capable of eating at Chick-fil-A....she is asking if it is acceptable within the boundaries of her stated beliefs and positions. You are acting as you don't recognize the difference....pretty sure you do....
lol....no one cares if your gay or not.....
Silly article. Chik Fil A's position on marriage is not out of the mainstream and they aren't anti-gay despite what this canard. The problem is not with those who want marriage to be defined as man and woman, it's with the gays who reject civil unions. Civil unions are officially recognized partnerships... why does the work marriage have to part of the equation? Former DNC chair Howard Dean is all for them... why is it not good enough?
The word "marriage" should not be part of the equation in any union, as far as government documents are concerned. The word marriage is religious in it's origins. In the US, church and state should be separate. How about instead of getting a marriage license, couples (man/woman, man/man, woman/woman) should all have to get civil union contracts. All marriage should be, in the eyes of the government, is a type of business merger. Two separate people (businesses) joining together to form one. If you would like to get married, then find a church, shaman, rabbi, whatever and get married.
Sorry, McBob, but if Chick-fil-A opposes marriage rights for gay people it is now out of the mainstream, at least if you believe the results of some opinion surveys that show support for gay marriage now over 50% in the United States. (I believe it's something like 52% in favor, 41% opposed, according to Gallup, CNN, and others.) Gay marriage supporters (yes, marriage, not just civil unions) are not some kooky fringe group out there any more, McBob. Times have changed. If I may borrow a phrase from President Obama, you (and Chick-fil-A) are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitlted to your own facts.
Civil unions do not confer all the rights and responsibilities of marriage–if they did, I suspect more people would support them. Also, that whole "separate but equal" thing is an issue too...in most realms we've acknowledged that's crap, but for some reason in the discussion of marriage equality suddenly people embrace it.
Either eat at Chick-fil-A or dont eat there, nobody cares. Just dont bloatavate on if you did or didnt eat there.
This whole phenomenon of boycotting seems so absurd to me. However nobly the supposed purpose of boycotting are expressed, it's really just another form of acting out when the world isn't constructed the way you wish it were. Well, tough. This is called life. I'm not creating the kind of world I want to live in by buying a chicken sandwich or not buying a chicken sandwich. I'm living in the world as it already is, and making the best of that world via either the momentary pleasure of a chicken sandwich or the momentary pleasure of pretending to make the world a better place. Both are delusions. I don't condemn either delusion; I just happen to prefer the delusion that tastes like chicken. That other people believe differently than I, and back up those beliefs with action, doesn't bother me – whether the action is protesting gays or protesting the protest of gays or giving your money to gay-haters or not giving your money to people who aren't gay-lovers. I don't condemn either side of this – it's just that I personally am not going to alter my life to for the sake of fitting in with one or the other side.
Seriously? What crud.
First:
"It led to Mike Huckabee’s crusade, Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day and the subsequent boycott of Chick-fil-A by gay, lesbian and like-minded individuals, myself included." The calls to boycott Chik-Fil-A happened first. The appreciation day was brought up after that and set for the day before the boycott.
"The truth is that Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day was not about freedom of speech. It was simply a thinly veiled protest against homosexuals, period. Those swarms of conservatives weren’t lining up around the block getting waffle fries and chicken sandwiches to protest such lofty ideals as upholding the constitution and protecting the First Amendment. I believe they were showing that they are united against same-sex marriage and against gays, in general."
BS, I will shout that from the top of the roof tops. I am what some may call a conservative, I say right leaning moderate. I support civil unions, and I have no problem with gays. Many coworkers who went with us to Chik-Fil-A that day were dead set liberals as well. I can't speak for everyone that was there. But we went because the owner of that establishment had a right to speak his beliefs. And it was wrong for people to attack is livelihood for his opinions. Boycott whoever you want, don't buy from whoever you want for whatever reason. But to make a concerted effort for something that he said. Shame. Chik-Fil-A the company does not discriminate in its hirings, etc. So no matter what Cathy said, or what he did with HIS money is up to him. If Chik-Fil-A was refusing to hire gays I'd be on board here, but it wasn't.
Shame on the author of this opinion piece.
I'm very impressed by the author's ability to read the minds and know the hearts of those who support Chick-fil-A. As a member of a group that accuses others of stereotyping and ignorant judgment, she states that all those who showed up to support Chick-fil-A only did so to protest homosexuality. So, anyone who supports Chick-fil-A is a homophobe. She knows their intentions. It is exactly that kind of prejudice (pre-judging) that is cited as the central problem of anyone who does not support homosexual marriage or homosexuality in general. The writer, in an attempt to point out the ignorance of those who stand in opposition to her lifestyle ( which they have the constitutional right to do), has shown both her ignorance and prejudice.
no one cares your gay....no one care if your not....just eat a chicken sandwich and shut up. Libs like to make a stink about envy one whom disagrees with how they think........libs are drama queens.......lol
I'm glad that they've supposedly stopped donating to those groups, but, I will not be back. They've lost my patronage for life.
"no one cares your gay....no one care if your not"
Plus, you would think a right wing nutjob like yourself might actually take the time to speak English at least on a third grade level.
You're gay? Stay at home and do yourself a favor and stay there.
From the redundancy department of redundancy
And stay there again!
Great! That means I can start my chain of Auschwitz-themed fast-food restaurants now.
You jest but they will exist one day. And they will be hilarious.
I don't think chick=fil=a will ever change their beliefs , they are just doing a spin so they don't loose any business . I will always support my G/L friends .
who cares? they can do and think how every they like free country......1st amendment.....
August 1, 2012 a woman I work with walked into work with Chick-fil-A breakfast sandwhiches and offered them to everyone. I told her and anyone within earshot that my son is gay and I would not support a company that condemns him. If this support had been aoubt freedom of speach, I would have expected her to make that argument. Instead her response was "we can hate the sin but still love the sinner." If her first reaction is indicative of the attitude of the majority of supporters of Chick-fil-A on that day than yes, that day was not about supporting the first ammendment but about supporting the belief that being gay is a sin. As we were both in the wrong and at a place of business, I walked away. She should never have brough sandwhiches in and made the comments that she was supporting "the cause". I should never have, in the work place, nudged her by commenting on my son's sexuality and my reason for not supporting this. But the biggest infraction? How can anyone think they have the right to stand in judgement of anyone else and call them a sinner? That is God's job. You want a quote? How about this one. "Judge not lest ye also be judged."
And while the both of you were acting like children, who was actually working???
Oh yeah, that would be the non-politard who you now report to.
Now get back to work!
lol
Way to take Matthew 7 out of context . If you re-examine your situation you will see she was not passing judgement on you or your son. She offered you a sandwich just like everyone else. She just believes giving into lustful desires are a sin. And she is correct. What is sin, sin at its root is thinking you know how things should be rather than the Creator who created all things. You and I are sinners, for we have all flipped God off to some point. But God loves you so much that instead of death which you and I deserve He has chosen to reconcile you to Himself by paying the penalty of death.
You might say well that is a stiff penalty but it isn't. Living in the Creator's world will disobeying His commands amounts to treason... and every country in the world treats treason with the death penalty.
We are not to judge people that they are worse then us and thus thing us better than everyone else because we all have sinned and been saved by grace.... this is correct,
But that doesn't mean you don't lovingly point out to a person when they are wrong and let wrong and evil persist
for just 14 verses later we are told to know people by the "fruit" in their lives
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.
(Matthew 7:15-20 ESV)
and again
“If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them.”
(Matthew 18:15-20 ESV)
and again
Brothers, if anyone is caught in any transgression, you who are spiritual should restore him in a spirit of gentleness. Keep watch on yourself, lest you too be tempted. Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. For if anyone thinks he is something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself. But let each one test his own work, and then his reason to boast will be in himself alone and not in his neighbor. For each will have to bear his own load.
(Galatians 6:1-5 ESV)
Ms. Willis –
I applaud the fact that he’s closed on Sundays and strong in his faith.". Why is it then that you apparently don't extend that applause to the belief that they personally don't support your cause? Your and I both admire them for sticking to their beliefs, but apparently you exclude the one that makes you uncomfortable. I fully support the company, and while it's a shame that you feel downtrodden, it's their right.
Across the nation and the world there are frightened teenagers suffering because of people like you.
A moral code rooted in anything other than human empathy is arbitrary and heartless.
Those who condemn benign behavior (i.e. that causes no harm to others) are contributing to intolerance, judgment and the subsequent human suffering.
It’s ironic that those who most loudly proclaim their morality are often those most heartless and oppressive.
"supporting the schools and sports teams. I admire the work of Chick-fil-A’s WinShape Foundation in regards to foster homes, scholarships and education, food donations for disaster relief, first responders and the military. Service, volunteering and giving back are at the heart of Chick-fil-A". The author lists quite a lot of really good things the company supports and does. I guess support for a single thing she doesn't like is enough to put all the good the company does in jeopardy. Especially since, according to the article, the whole boycott was because of support Chik-fil-a hadn't even given in 2 years.
Typical black and white response from a religious type. The world is a complicated place my friend. For example… I support many of my sister’s actions but not all. Should I instead blindly support all her actions regardless of how stupid, bigoted or lacking of common sense simply because I support the actions I consider to be smart, compassionate and rational? No.
P.S. No one is arguing that Chick-Fil-Hate doesn’t have the right… By defending something no one is attacking you make yourself look foolish. The transparent attempt to change the debate to something that would give you a possible legitimate excuse for such poor behavior shows that even you know you’re wrong.
I hope one day Truett Cathy is able to help find the cure to homosexuality through his philanthropy groups. In the meantime, we should all pray that these poor souls change from their deviant ways.
That would make porno and strip clubs way too boring.
Then where would I go to find the girls with daddy issues to populate my strip clubs?
Try your daughter?
Don't have any kids.
Maybe I'll try yours.
"Maybe I'll try yours"
I already did.
Danielson, that wasn't very Christian of you. It isn't loving to make hurtful comment like that, even if you did hilariously make a fool of Jib Jab.
You got hate in your heart
There is no cure because there is no disease. It's like trying to cure someone of having blue eyes.
I cured myself of that by using too much visine in high school.
I disagree. It's been proven that it's a disease. I just don't understand why homosexuals choose to sin.
Let's me tell you something Brother, the good folks down at Chick-fil-A don't hate you Jabronies. They love all the little Hulkamanics running around just trying to get themselves a good, wholesome chicken sandwitch, dude. The Big HULKAMANIC IN THE SKY is looking down with a smile on his face because he sees how we can all work together to make the world a better place brother. With the POWER of the MILLIONS of Hulkamanics behind me these 24 inch pythons we can change the world BROTHER!
You stole my line. I say jabronies.
The Rock doesn't even know what in the blue hell you are talking about Jabronie.
Why is it so difficult for people to face the facts. There is something wrong with gays and lesbians. Babies are born with diseases and abnormalities, and that is unfortunate. But we do our very best to fix those problems. We should concentrate our efforts to fix the problem of being gay or lesbian.
Ate lead paint chips as a kid ^^^
Rep: Obviously we can't fix the problem of you being a bigoted idiot.
The good news is that there is a cure for bigotry. It's education.
If I don't think I have a problem, then why should I seek a "fix"?
I think you need to be fixed. I will pray that you are able to fix your heart and your brain
Why is it ok for a corporation to take profits from ALL patrons to fund discrimination groups? Gay people boycotted to bring awareness of their actions. Why did there have to be a counter-protest? You don't have to agree with gay people so why take time out of your day to supress others you do not like? American Christians equals hypocrits.
If you notice there was no counter protest until that idiot Rahm Emanuel and the other idiot mayors started trying to not allow Chik-fil-a into their communities. That is what started the Chik-fil-a appreciation day and caused it to be so huge. I support gay marriages and other all rights for gay individuals but I don't support people trying to shut other people up or out simply because they think differently than me. Those mayors trying to block chik-fill-a from opening in their cities is what got the country so riled up and ready to support the appreciation day. I bet if those mayors had never made those fascist remarks then that day would have never happened.
If you think for one moment that Chick-fil-A no longer supports conservative political or social agendas just because they posted something on their website or donations don't appear in their books, you're very naive. It's ingrained in their corporate culture and by the mere fact that they aren't open on Sundays says along about their social agenda - altra conservative which = anti-gay.
Let me know when they've donated to a gay organization, maybe one that helps gay children thrown out of their homes by their ultra Conservative Christian parents for just being gay. After all, this company helped foster such thought, and continues to do so, so let them help pick up the pieces.
“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" You can’t have free speech without running the risk of offending someone! In a country as diverse as America, there are bound to be some who hold views that others find unpopular, upsetting, and even offensive. I remember how offended I was when the Nazis marched through Skokie, IL wearing Swastikas in 1977. The ACLU vigorously defended them. Homosexuals can’t advocate for their right to push their beliefs while denying that same right to those who disagree with them.
How is anyone 'denying' the Chick-Fil-A CEO his rights to freedom of speech – it's not a First Amendment issue. We are saying we don't support their business because of their bigoted beliefs. No one has said he can't say it. Get over it.
And you have every right not to support chik-fil-a. I honestly admire you for standing by your principles but for me supporting the chik-fil-a appreciation day was not about hating on the GLBT community. It was about standing up against that idiot Rham Emanuel and those other mayors trying to not allow chik-fil-a's to open in their cities. I would be just as upset about a city trying to stop a GLBT business from opening.
With a metal mallet, pound a boneless chicken breast to 1/4" thickness. Brine in pickle juice for an hour. Coat with a flour/corn starch /salt & pepper mixture, and fry for about 4 minutes. There. You can have your Chick-Fil-A sandwich and believe whatever you want to believe.
I prefer to pound it with a flesh mallet...
See – straight people – this right here should PROVE to you that gays are just like straights. There are fools EVERYWHERE who forget 3 minutes after something happens to them.
NO – DO NOT GIVE THESE HOMOPHOBES YOUR MONEY. Their crappy food can't be THAT good!
Why do I have to care if someone is gay or not. Why do I have to accept it? No one cares that I am straight, I don't have have "straight" pride, so why force this nonsense down my throat. News flash for they gay folk, no one gives a shit, so stop force feeding your beliefs on the rest of us.
Maybe because no one is seeking to put laws in place that would criminalize your sexual behavior, and sentence you to death because of it.
You are ignorant! The gays are not FORCING anyone to change their beliefs. All they want is equal rights under the law...truth.
Explain the "forcing" part.
You dont have to care, but many people do. Many people dislike, loath and/or hate homosexuals. Some of those same people also assault homosexuals physically or verbally. They are also told, in many states, that they do not have the right to wed their loved one because they are not straight. They are told that they are decaying the country morally (laughable).
So to say that no one gives a shìt about the subject is as false of a statement that you can make. I do, however, think its safe to say that you dont know shìt. In closing, you and your morning period can cry me a river.
The author's logic appears to work for anything:
"I, too, am a Christian. I am also a {adulterer/murderer/bigamist/pedophile}. And while many religious conservatives think I am going to burn in hell and my existence is a crime against nature, I refuse to believe that God doesn’t love me because I am an {adulterer/murderer/bigamist/pedophile}. I refuse to believe that God made a mistake."
God doesn't make mistakes. People make mistakes.
You're parents made the mistake.
The little abortion that got away...
Logic,
God doesn't make mistakes. That's why he supports slavery and discrimination against women and the handicapped.
Yes, God doesn't make mistakes. You have to exist to be able to make mistakes.
Any sense of logic is lost when he calls himself Christian and lesbian. He may be Christian, but he certainly is not living like one, if you don't act like a Christian don't call yourself one, whether you are lesbian, or critical and harsh towards lesbian. The Bible is clear God did not create any gay people, it is a choice, or an effect of the twisted culture we live in. The Bible is also clear we are only to try to help them digress from their sin, not rip them to shreds!
The bible is clear – Jesus loved to hang out with addicts, hookers and deviants.
And even Richard-smokers like you Joe!
So it's safe to assume that you don't eat shrimp or play football or have any tattoos or grow more than one crop in your garden or wear poly-cotton blends.
But I'd imagine you're just fine with slavery, polygamy and stoning.
And byt the way, homosexuality is not a choice. You're thinking of "Bigotry," THAT's a choice (So's religion).
Joe,
God and the "sanct-ity of marriage":
If a virgin is r@ped, she MUST marry her rapist and can nevver be divorced.
lol.
Joe
"Any sense of logic is lost when he calls himself Christian and lesbian"
Classic. NO ONE could argue that with you. Finally, something everyone agrees with.
Appears neither you nor Joe are a strong enough "Observer" to note that "he" is a woman (one of the prerequisites of being a lesbian, duh).
And for the umpteenth time, Jesus never said word one about homosexuality.
OH GOOD GRIEF!!!! Can we just get over this crap!! Someone just wants more attention! AGAIN!!
When the Pro Chick Fill A supporters took the time to gather at their local restaurants it proved they are Haters. There are all kinds of people I do not care for but I mind my own business and turn the other cheek. This country is very hypocritical and I am disgusted by it. You wont find this much hate and pregiduce in alot of other countries. Just Because you do not agree with someone's lifestyle as long as it does not infringe on you, Who Cares? Another thing; Guns are Bad.
Then LEAVE and go live in these "other" countries if you like them so much. Let me buy you a pacifier! Guns are GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi: Calling those people who showed up for "Chik fil A" appreciation day "haters" is no more true than the gay rights folks calling them homophobic. They are words designed to do just one thing, create an environment of hostility designed to suppress dissent/debate and disagreement...qualities that make for a healthy democracy. I am a Christian who believes that homosexuality is wrong because God, in HIs word the Bible, says it is wrong. Specifically, per Romans Chapter 1, homosexuality is characterized as the perversion of God's intended plan for marital relationships born of a depraved mind which is the result of the rejection of God's truth, ie. the Bible. Having said that, I don't hate homosexuals. When I was attending Bible College in Portland, Oregon, I worked for a company on a parttime basis. One of my colleagues was gay. He and I had lunch together just about every day. He knew where I stood on the issue. And I knew where he stood. Did that keep us from being good friends. Absolutely not. It is obvious to me, as well as any person of average intelligence, ie. the folks who showed up for the Chik appreciation day, that an important component of the Gay agenda is to suppress debate and dissent when it comes to homosesxuality. As a lifestyle, platform for relationships, making the case for homosexuality solely on the basis of merit isn't possible.
Dear Ms. Willis:
I thoroughly enjoyed reading your perspective in this article. However, as one who supported Chick-Fil-A on the boycot day, I assure you, the reason I and everyone I know who attended that day were there to defend ours and Chick-Fil-A's right to Freedom of Speech & Freedom of Religion. Most I spoke to felt they have had enough of the threats and being bullied to accept a world view they don't agree with. I disagree with some of your opinions on this issue, but I do respect you.
You don't have to accept my world view. You can think anything you want about gay people. What I find offensive is that your opinions are affecting my lawful rights. I don't vote on your marriage, why do you get to vote on mine? I completely disagree with the churchs stance on a woman must follow her husband in everything he says. Do you care about that opinion? No, of course not. My opinion, however, doesn't affect the law. You can disagree. Just give me rights.
Apparently the definition of a democracy escapes you.
Apparently the bill of rights escapes you.
The problem is that there are people in this world who call themselves Christians but don't live it. If you are a true Christian you would never bash or judge the sins of others. Those who do are living hypocritically. We all fall short of the glory of God. Chic-fil-a was in NO WAY gay bashing. They simply stated that they support traditional marriage as outlined in the Bible. They never said that gays can't eat at their restaurants, or that they hate gays. This story has been so blown out of proportion that it has gone far beyond rediculous. Christians are supposed to be ambassadors of Christ and His teachings. If a person calling themselves a Christian is spouting hatelful speach because of your sin, then call them out on their own and remind them Christ calls for us to love our neighbors as we love oursleves, regardless of their transgressions, because we know that Christ is the ultimate redeemer. I hate all sin including my own, but I would never hate someone because of their own sin. That would mean I would have to hate myslef also.
Hate is great, ain't it? This woman presumes to know my mind, and my motives when I stood out in the 102 degree heat for almost 90 minutes before I even got in the Chick-Fil-A door, where the AC was running just fine, thank you. It WAS about free speech as much as it was about making a statement about homosexuality. Us normal people are tired of being told that our opinions are somehow warped or 'hateful", especially when it being done by people that are inarguably defective. You say it's genetic? Well, that's a defect, not a norm. Deviant sexual practices are by definition, anything outside of the norm. Homosexual sex is a deviant practice. Were it the norm, the vast majority of humans would be homos. Anyway, you peole are just PO'd that the discussion still has it's detractors. You want the discussion on your deviant lifestyles to only go in your favor, with no dissenting voices allowed. When that doesn't happen, your true nature emerges, the tolerance you demand of us is notably absent in your own actions and words. God doesn't make mistakes, by the way. The writer is making her own choices in how she behaves. If I feel like killing someone, I will or will not, based on my own moral compass. If I do, I can't blame God for it. I will have made the choice. The feeling is genuine, no doubt, but the action, if any...is all on me. Likewise with homosexuality. The feelings may be real, but the actions, those are a choice, always. It's not God. Your psychological problems are due to the conflict you feel, knowing right from wrong but choosing to do wrong. THAT is the most normal thing about you.
R. Kelly called, Rod.
He wants his closet back
thank you! You said it perfectly
If you accept that homosexuality is genetic (that is, people are born homosexual, and it is not a choice) then what makes homophobia any different from racism? Skin color is also genetically coded, and in the modern world we have come to believe that we should not judge people for how they are born. Your argument lacks coherence even on your own terms. Most homophobes still pretend that sexual orientation is a choice (despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary), because they have realized that if it is not, then their position is untenable. As for the funny part of your post: "deviant sexual practices are anything outside the norm" well, until very recently then, giving your wife oral sex was a form of sexual deviance, as was having sex before marriage. But even if sex between people of the same sex is not "normal", as you put it, who cares? Why do you give a @%§ as long as they don't want to have it with you?
You lost me at 'God' . Don't care if you believe in him, but I just can't take you seriously knowing you believe in a mystical man in the sky. Such a shame, I was enjoying the article.
drugs, illegal immigration, aids, abortion,,,,,don't liberals just kill ya!
It's not like Republcans who started a $3,000,000,000,000 war for false reasons that killed tens of thousands.
Actrually no ... it's the gun toting conservatives that are killing people ;)
Interesting comment: If you look up every mass killing taken place in the last 10 years you will find registered Democrats and avowed liberals were the perpetrators. Get it right or shut up
Right!
Like that assault rifle toting home schooled christian that just shot up a school in CT.
Darn liberals!!
I think marriage is only between two men and six women. If you do not agree, you are obviously denying me my civil rights,, are a bigot and a "hater".
So there.
are you a mormon?
These are not Biblical times. We don't do that anymore.
Really? Someone should tell the 2.18 billion people in the world who, according to Pew, consider themselves Christian. Would certainly make life easier not having to follow all those silly tenets like don't steal, lie, cheat or kill...........
So, you are only for marriage equality with some people and not everyone? Why is polygamy so bad? If you have 8 consenting adults, who are you to judge?
The reference to Biblical times was to the days talked about in the Bible.
Fortunately, most Christians are smart enough to ignore nonsense in the Bible like concerning slavery and discrimination against women and the handicapped.
Look, the bottom line is being missed here, and that is is that Chick fil a sufferd not one bit from this boycott. If anything, it INCREASED their profits when a significantly larger group of people came out to support them. NOW, the thrill of it all has worn off, the gay groups have discovered, much to their dismay, that chick fil a is laughting all the way to the bank. the food is good, obviously, and so now all of a sudden, the boycott doesn't seem all that important after all, so they pull back.
Some types of people are grounded and strong, like a tree with deep roots. Others are lack the chaff which the wind blows away, or a dried up tumbleweed that blows wherever the political winds like to shift. Any respect I had for the gay movement has been hurt by this caving in of theirs, and this weak article. As far as chick fil a regardless of their beliefs being right or not, I can't help but have a certain admiration for ANY group or individual who can continue to stay strong and hold thier head up high amidst that kind of bullying, harrassment and criticism. Though the profits and support has helped, many others have gone under or cowered down to bullies. Bullies, REGARDLESS of their political or sexual persuasion, are ALWAYS wrong.
The Gay agenda is not about marriage! Most companies now offer health insurance to domestic partnerships and a good Family lawyer can draw up papers that give any non-married couple the same rights/privileges as being married. There are no laws preventing gays from having a wedding, getting engagement rings, and calling themselves husband and husband or wife and wife or whatever. This is about acceptance. They want you to accept their lifestyle as normal and equal to the heterosexual community. The Jewish Liberals in this country support this cause because homosexuality and the "Feminist" movement (not even really feminist) break down the family.
wrong, imbecile. Gay marriage is allowed in 9 states plus DC-and civil unions are in 9 more states-what about the otehr 32 states? please educate yourself on matters you dont undertsand before commneting. And gays do NOT care about accpetance from backwards rednecks like yourself-we tried that-your side said no so we said screw you, we will go through the courts, where we have won-EVERY time
Seriously, your sexual identity affects your hunger and food choices? THIS is the priority of your life? You can't eat your preferred chicken products because the place that sells them has a boss who believes that the Bible says you are not supposed to be gay? Wow, Yikes, shazzam...oh wait, that's Jim Nabors!
I don't happen to know any gay people that I know of. After reading this article and others like it I am glad of that fact. Seems a lot of gay people think "it's my way or the highway." They scream for tolerance in todays society and have fits of anger when someone else s opinions or way of life are not exactly what they think the other persons should be. They want tolerance and show none themselves.
They have it to good here and yet they complain and complain and complain some more. They need to look to the black population for advice on this. If you keep making a huge deal out of every little thing then people will end up not even caring if you speak let alone even exist.
Of the thousands of places to go get your chemically altered factory made food you want to make a big old deal about the faith and stance of one chains owners. Why don't they embrace the fact that this owner had his faith and is willing to stand by it? Why? Because they themselves are intolerant.
This is America we don't have to think exactly like you do so you go ahead and have your little tantrum and you will see that the more it goes on the less people will care.
Steve, tolerance is directly related to people believing what you do. Like ProChoice who believe that life begins when you believe what they do........same silliness
Dear Steve,
My guess is you know gay people. You know a lot of gay people. They just haven't told you they're gay because they don't want to deal with a bigot of questionable intelligence.
Now go away and let the grown ups talk.
Sincerely,
A straight woman
Spot on.
Joanna, you do a nice job of simply averting Steve's point by telling him to "go away" (very tolerant of you to accept other peoples' viewpoints by the way) but you fail to address his argument. Many people have pointed out, on several occasions, that the LGBT community themselves come off very intolerant of other peoples' opinions. Why is there an article casting a business in a negative light because they hold a belief contra to the author's? Is the author showing tolerance? Yet she demands it. Very hypocritical.
Just as a disclaimer, I don't have anyone in my life, that I know of, that is LGBT, but I do think they should be allowed to marry and enjoy all the privileges (or burdens) of straight couples. What I can't agree with is the idea that if you don't agree with that you are a bad person/business. Who says the LGBT community, and those who agree with them on this point, are right? That's why freedom of speech is so great. Nobody with a voice should ever be told to "go away."
Joe, youre not this simple are you? there are those who favor equality and there are bigots-we dont NEED to reasonw ith bigots-why shoudl we? woudl you have told the blacks to reason with the KKK? to reason with them? of course not-so we dismiss them-and they ill be dead soon so
Norman, you're proving the very point I'm trying to make. Someone holds a different viewpoint than you so you label them a bigot. Really? And if your argument is that anyone who holds an opinion that not all things should be/can be equal is a bigot, where does it end? I can not get many scholarships due to being white, a man, a non-jewish student etc... do I label those groups sponsoring such scholarships bigots? No. But following your logic I should because they refuse to extend to me the same privileges they grant to people fitting those characteristics. . . immutable characteristics at that.
The point of my previous post, as I think was the point of Steve's original post that was dismissed as being bigoted, was that we can't simply label people bigots because they chose to stand by their beliefs and refuse to bend to what we believe or how we think things should be. I have less respect for someone who bows to pressure and caves on what they believe then someone who stands behind their beliefs. And remember, I don't really agree with the Chic Fil A guy, but I don't think he's a bigot either. I think he feels differently than I do, no harm no foul.
As for the KKK, they actively sought to intimidate and harm people. Chick FilA is donating in order to support its beliefs through political processes. Although I hate the underlying idea of donations affecting such processes, until we stop people from donating to Pro LGBT groups too, I don't think we can hinge our "bigot" argument on that.
On a lighter note, it's Friday and I'm heading home. Have a great weekend!
Steve you just described most heterosexuals.
If McDonalds gave to the KKK, I hardly think you would find kind comments towards McDonalds. But I don't happen to know any black people that I know of
You're comparing the Family Research Council to the KKK?
no difference at all, bud-hate is hate
I don't happen to know any black or jewish people that I know of. After reading this article and others like it I am glad of that fact. Seems a lot of black and jewish people think "it's my way or the highway." They scream for tolerance in todays society and have fits of anger when someone else s opinions or way of life are not exactly what they think the other persons should be. They want tolerance and show none themselves.
Darn blacks and jews insisting that they get teated equally. How intolerant of them.
IF you feel the need to check the political affiliations of every business you transact with, your life will be a royal pain. I eat at Chik Fil A. I don't check who they donate to. I've met Truitt Cathy. He was a really nice man. I also go to Hollywood movies made by people who beleive things I don't. If I didn't I would rarely get to see a movie, or watch TV... The list goes on.
I go to restaurants if the food is good and the service as well. I watch movies if they are well made and enjoyable. Trying to filter everything by the owners or actors politics would be a horriblewaste of time.
Right on....smartest thing I have "heard" all day
Are you gay? Are you being denied any specific right that maybe other Americans have because of your sexual orientation? If not, then I wouldnt comment on what you think is a waste of time for me.
Of what right are you being denied? Truth? Liberty? The pursuit of happiness? Did someone promise you something you are not getting? Or do you just want to have what everybody else has and don't mind changing the rules to get it? The bigamists will follow you and the pedophiles after them. Why not? Why can't we bend all the rules until everybody gets what they want? Kinda makes you wonder why the rules were there to begin with.
you cant be this ignorant...gays cannot marry in 41 states. gays cannot get a civil union in 32 states. gays can be fired for beign gay in 28 states. gays can be denied housing in 29 states. Need more?
uuummmm.....the right to marry??? Where have you been for the past decade? LOL You can categorize that in the right to pursue happiness.
Erik, you are right. We live in a great country, you can waste your time on anything you choose to. Good comment
Yes, you did miss something. Gays were not banned from Chicken Filet. They voluntarily boycotted the restaurant after the CEO was caught donating vast sums to lobby groups that fight against civil rights legislation and to African ministries that embarked on a crusade of mass murder against homosexuals.
He couldn't stone gays in his own country a la the rules of his religion, so he found a round about way to slaughter those he hated and crush their civil rights.
I missed something. When were gays banned from eating at Chick-fil-A to begin with?
Nobody every said they could not eat there. They are just a little delusional from smoking too much sausage!
No need to tell us about your favorite pastime Joe.
We get it, you like the Rooster
If you actually read the article instead of coming up with a snarky response from reading the title you wouldn't be missing anything..No one said gays were banned.
I'm pretty sure no one ever said you couldn't eat there. And you got paid to write this??
Dude this is CNN, not some highly respected new organization or anything. They are in the toilet!
Joe,
lol. Tell us how good FOX NEWS is.
joe..its an opinion piece , not a news article..And if its such a rag why do you read?
I think most people are sick and tired of hearing poor me poor me from the Gay community. Hey whatever fills your twinkie. Can you all just keep quiet already. We're tired of hearing it!!
Joe,
Isn't it great not to hear about slavery, and discrimination against women and the handicapped. Did you notice?
And at one time, some people were tired of hearing women complain about lacking the right to vote or own property. And at one time, some people were tired of hearing black folk complain about their chains chaffing their skin. Just because you are tired of listening to complaints does not make a complaint invalid.
Yes, but, by your logic, it doesn't make it valid either.....the only truth is that you will eventually meet people you disagree with or just plain don't like in this world......move on.
R. Kelly called Joe.
He wants his closet back
actually you ignant religgy nuts would be just as intolerant as the muzzies... if you could get away with it... but you AREN'T the majority in this country... normal people are... and normal xtians are like homer simpson.. he's too lazy to do anything until you nutbags go to far... or its easy for him to slap you down when you express your ignant moronic pathetic BIGOTED beleifs
I used to go there occasionally till I found out about chic-fil-a's ulterior motives over 20 years ago, I don't happen to be gay but that is FAR from the only area that this lobbying front uses it's money to influence, I'm not anti christian or anti any religion but I am very much against the agenda of the radical right and it was back then when this radicalization and imo anti american campaign started........ so why would I support that? why would I help that?
I do not believe they have stopped, I believe they are liars and have just gotten a bit more tricky about it.
also....... it's not really alot to give up.......... I mean c'mon, it's fast food/junk food chicken sandwiches....... so what?
I have not eaten at a chik-fil-a in over 20 years.
and I NEVER will.
why? they have already harmed the country I love by helping to radicalize the right fringe and spread their message of hate to more and more less educated fringe groups, they have actively harmed the USA.
you might think I'm a "hippie" etc (I'm not) but I served in the marines to protect my country, why wouldn't I give up some crap chicken sandwiches to protect my country?
the USA needs to be protected from the radical right and one of the ways to do that is to limit their resources and basically shun them..... I turn my back on chik-fil-a!
What a moronic view you have!! But I can tell by your rant that you are not very educated.
Come out of the closet already Joe
And they seem to be doing just fine without you. As a matter fo fact I think I'll go there today on your behalf, in hopes that they can survive without your contributions.
Lance, you don't "happen" to be gay? So, it just "happens"? neat.
Your comment begs the question; "do you define "hate" speech as anything or anyone who does not love what you do?" Just asking...tough bar to reach
Lance,
I like what you said. I think I'll probably boycott them as well now. No reason to provide these groups with more resources. Plenty of other places that can make a great chicken sandwich. I go there quite often, so this will probably translate to hundreds of dollars per year. Right wingers can say that's immaterial, but if others join in it will make a difference. Maybe that's why Chick-fil-a is starting to change it's tune. They're noticing the financial impact. Chick-fil-a is even being banned from certain cities now.
Sorry Juan, have to disagree...."great" chicken sandwich?
Be careful when you claim people are born gay. This implies a gay gene. Now, let us set up a scenario; if being gay is not a choice because who would choose to be such a persecuted minority, what if a gay gene test is determined? Would it be okay to restrict the right of a woman based upon such a gene?
If you say yes, then you homophobic. If you say no, then you hate women and want to restrict abortions.
So tell me, what hate group do you belong to? Hate gays or hate women?
That is the most ridiculous post I have read yet, and that's saying alot considering the knuckle dragging barbarism that is being displayed on this page.
Gay is not a choice. Getting pregnant is a choice. I don't hate women, I hate selfishness. If you have a reason to terminate your pregnancy, ie you were not given a choice (rape), then you should be able to do so. If you want to terminate your pregnancy because the child is gay or female or black, a pregnancy that was conceived by your own choice, then you are a hateful, selfish person and should not be able to do so.
Is that clear enough for you?
n222s,
There are also some beliefs that testosterone/estrogen levels in the uterus may contribute to the "gay-ness" of a child. Believing that people are born gay does not necessarily restrict that to believing "gay-ness" is genetic. I understand the point you are trying to make, I just wanted to let you know that there are two sides to that story, and maybe even more (i.e., different medicines taken during pregnancy).
> This implies a gay gene.
Biology 101 fail. Lots of things influence development besides genetics alone, such as the biochemistry of the mother's womb and blood.
Jeramie and Mich, I am most certainly NOT a biologist. So I'll go by what you say. However, my point is still valid. If a test could be developed which determines that a mother's unborn child has a high probability of being gay, for whatever reason, would you think it okay to abort that child based upon that probability? People love to say you hate women if you want to restrict abortions for any reason.
Here's my point; it is easy to label people as being full of hate when they have a moral stance that runs counter to yours. Especially if they want to make laqws enforcing that morality. However, if you make a law banning abortions for any reason are you being hateful for trying to enforce your moral code? Which means that YOUR moral code is okay but someone else's is not. YOU don't hate, you are just being reasonable.
And don't force me into a box. Though I find gay marriage repugnant I DO NOT want the government involved with ANY marriage, gay, straight or poly. Am I pro-life? Yes, because I DO believe in the sanctity of life. And I DO NOT WANT to allow abortions for presumptive gay children.
Now...if your moral code is not hateful, why is mine? I want government out of all things possible NOT because I hate government but because you should be free to do as you see fit. If you believe in God and He doesn't like what you do, that is between you and him. I have enough to answer for...especially that night in Vegas. lol
The ONLY reaon I am pro-life is because it is a life issue. Hate me all you want. I could care less. So... if you're gay, you can do what you want in my world. You just can't abort babies because they might be gay.
Jay, you have made my day and nothing illustrates my point better than your post. Born that way, not born that way, whatever. There are plenty of people who will tell you that the opposition to any abortion for any reason at any time is, in some way, hateful. But, in your universe, there are degrees to being hateful. If someone gets an abortion for reasons you disagree with, they are hateful. In your universe, you opposition to abortion for gender, orientation or color is wrong. In other words, you are drawing a moral line based upon your definition of morality. What gives YOU the right to impose your moral code upon others? Jay, jay, jay, why do you get to decide my morality?
Mich, I don't know what we do, or do not agree on in this world but you sound like someone who could actually have an intelligent conversation with someone with whom he/she disagrees and not reduce it to a pseudo-intellectual name calling match.
But n222s, that is where you are missing the point. When talking about the law, you must address the issues objectively, and without bias. I certainly did express my OPINION, but nowhere in my statement did I state that the law should be built on that opinion. In my mind, it all comes down to the preservation of free will, which ultimately is the basis of the law – to preserve an individual's right to self-determination. Abortion should be illegal as it negates the unborn's right to choose. Now, we could wax poetic all day about the semantics of when life begins, but, ultimately, I AM willing to sit back and allow consenting adults to enter into a contract (ie gay marriage), as that is their 'individual' right. I AM NOT, however, willing to stand by and allow others to terminate the rights of the unborn (even if I don't perform the D&C myself, it does not mean my hands are any less dirty for allowing it to happen).
Don't mistake that my opinion is very different than yours (I actually respect the struggle of the gay community and support them wholeheartedly), though our stance on the law is likely very similar. Your smug superiority complex has clearly prevented you from recognizing that.
Jay, you truly did miss my point. I probably wasn't clear. Too many people jump the gun and believe the basis for any disagreement on matters such as gay marriage and abortion is hate. You and I both probably know people that are absolutists in terms of abortion choice and at the same time gay rights. When you confront them with the dilemma of accepting choice even when it means aborting possibly gay children or...denying choice upon demand for any reason, it makes them squirm.
But those are the very same people who would simplisticly label pro-life and anti-gay marriage views as both being borne of hate. And, from your second post, I can see that you are not one of those people. People love to view themselves as being tolerant. Right up until the point of having to make a choice. I DO think gay marriage is immoral. And if you read my other posts, you know I don't believe the government has the right to impose its view of marriage in any way on anybody. At least you have the courage to take a stand without apology. A one popular with many on the left (full gay rights) and one unpopular (pro-life).
And, my friend, it is you who insulted me. Having a moral code doesn't make me better or superior. It just gives me something to believe in and to which i can aspire. What is ridiculous is the belief that if I disagree with someone it is a simple matter of hate. Don't get dragged into the mire by tarring me with such a charged word. I don't think you would but...please don't do so.
God could take the form of man come down here and tell them to their face that this is wrong and they would stick their nose at him and ask him who does he think he is to tell me how to live. Oh thats right. He already DID. Shame on you for thumbing your nose at God. Who do you think you are!? You better pray for forgiveness and salvation while you still can.
tell who?
No, I hope you're praying for forgiveness from Zeus. One day, you'll bow before him, and you'll know then that you've been praying to a false god – but it will be too late.
NEWSFLASH: No one really cares to know your sexual preference. Walk up to the counter, order something and eat. Believe me they won't ask, nor care, about he sex of your significant other. Good grief.
No one cares about your gayness or your love for Penis. You are less than 1% of the population. Should you have the right to marry..ok fine. But that doesn't mean we have to accept you, hang out with you, invite you to our homes, and have you "mentor' our children. You can't make me like your lifestyle.
Actually you ignorant dolt, homosexuality represents closer to 10% and in all likelihood several percentage points higher than that because it often goes unreported. Sexuality is not a lifestyle, working a 9-5, having 2.5 kids, and living in a mortgaged home is a lifestyle. Eating nothing but nachos while living in your mother's basement and playing World of Warcraft is a lifestyle. On the other hand sexuality, like hair color, eye color, skin color, and gender is a trait based purely in biology.
That's a bunch of BS. Biology has nothing to do with you pervs craving for same sex, and you would not be tolerated if the government hadn't forced hetero America to accept you.
Just for a start there are all these closet gay Republicans who, if they came out, would notch up the known gay population by a few percent! Not that there's anything wrong with that! It's their self-loathing I pity them for.
Wow. So, my support for the first amendment is unequivocal proof of my bigotry and anit-gay character? From that perspective you may suppose my support of the second amendment is indicative of support for gun violence. With such an irrational position, no wonder you feel the world is against you.
yeah, and that bitter taste in their mouth that they are taking about is probably from another activity they participate in! Lol...
Ooooooooohhhhhh good one! ::rolling eyes::
And people claim that being anti-gay is not hate....grow the F up.
honestly who cares if they have issues with gays. if you think it's absurd don't eat there. I support gay people, but i'm still going to eat there. This is America, whether you agree with someone's opinion or not you can't tell them they cannot have it. Everyone in America acts like a bunch of children these days, well guess what, MERRY CHRISTMAS.
Extremely well said. A healthy democracy includes the right to disagree...and the respect that goes with it.
I agree with this to a certain extent. I accept that there will always be differences in opinions and I dont need everyone in America to approve of me being gay. The only thing I am fighting for and DO need is to have equal rights...this is ultimately the big issue here. Once I have the same rights to marry whom I please, I will gladly agree to disagree. Until then, I will fight against anyone or any company who tries/funds/supports to keep denying me my rights.
"The truth is that Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day was not about freedom of speech. It was simply a thinly veiled protest against homosexuals, period"
What?? This is why we can't have a serious discussion. It's always reduced to THIS. Sure, maybe a certain percentage hate and maybe that's why they came out but to say such a blanket and crazy statement like this only makes it worse. How about this? How about a LOT of people were there due to the fact that mayors of major cities decided to try and BAN a business just because the CEO has a personal opinion? That surely wouldn't make people protest would it? Liberals? Did you hear me? A business that does not discriminate and serves everyone equally is discriminated against by the government because of a religious opinion? That made it a 1st amendment issue. Nothing to protest about that? It's always about hate eh? Lots of talk about hypocrites on here but it's pretty obvious who they really are. Tolerance anyone?
Yes.
You are very obviously a closet case
You obviously have nothing going on upstairs or you would've said something... else. Anything.
Chick-fil-A no longer gives funds to “the most divisive anti-LGBT groups.”
Chik-fil-A is backing down, and this is a win for GLBTs.
Pretty bad news for the religious right when the nation's most homo-phobic chain is clearly backing down!
I believe it's all about money. Money talks and it was affecting their bottom line.
It appears you are the phobic, you are the true bigot. You can't tolerate the views of another if they don't line up with yours. You are the one who forces others to change their ideas, and push to harm another with vicious tactics and then laugh and mock if they do change or don't. You truly are the sick mind who fears anything good, and you have a lack of understanding of values, family, or Gods views. The more you tongue speaks on the matter, the greater your foolishness appears.
Who really cares ? Certainly not the dead chickens.