January 31st, 2013
03:00 PM ET
Chefs with Issues is a platform for chefs and farmers we love, fired up for causes about which they're passionate. Virginia Willis, a graduate of L'Academie de Cuisine and Ecole de Cuisine LaVarenne, is the author of "Bon Appétit, Y’all" and "Basic to Brilliant, Y'all."
As a chef and food writer, I rarely eat fast food. The quality is generally atrocious and much of it is radically unhealthy. The menu offerings are the polar opposite of local and seasonal. There are dire implications concerning worker’s rights and wages, as well as animal welfare and factory farms.
It doesn’t matter where you are in the country, every interstate exit is identical with the same usual suspects offering the same sad sacks of chemically laced, artificially flavored fare, all swimming in high-fructose corn syrup. Cheap, fast food is at the core of what is wrong with our food system.
Yet, there’s one thing that trumps my French-training and chef sensibilities; I love Chick-fil-A.
My favorite sandwich is the classic fried chicken sandwich on the buttered bun. The steam from the slightly sweet, golden brown chicken condenses inside the foil-lined package and wilts the bread, just enough. I prefer plain, no lettuce, no tomato, just mayonnaise, and the perfect pop of sour pickle.
I’ve always known that founder Truett Cathy was a religiously conservative Christian. I applaud the fact that he’s closed on Sundays and strong in his faith. The outlets are part of the local community, supporting the schools and sports teams. I admire the work of Chick-fil-A’s WinShape Foundation in regards to foster homes, scholarships and education, food donations for disaster relief, first responders and the military. Service, volunteering and giving back are at the heart of Chick-fil-A, qualities I aspire to, advocate and admire.
I, too, am a Christian. I am also a lesbian. And while many religious conservatives think I am going to burn in hell and my existence is a crime against nature, I refuse to believe that God doesn’t love me because I am gay. I refuse to believe that God made a mistake.
I refuse to believe that something is wrong with me and I need “conversion therapy.” I refuse to call those anti-same sex marriage groups "pro-family" because that doesn’t include my very real family, my love and my commitment to my partner. I also absolutely refuse to believe that if I choose to marry another woman that I am somehow harming the institution of marriage.
Controversy erupted last summer with Chick-fil-A president and chief operating officer Dan Cathy's remarks about being against gay marriage, “guilty as charged.” It led to Mike Huckabee’s crusade, Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day and the subsequent boycott of Chick-fil-A by gay, lesbian and like-minded individuals, myself included.
The Chick-fil-A website states that the corporate giving has been “mischaracterized.” Well, there’s nothing “mischaracterizing” about their – now former – funding of the ultra-conservative groups such as Family Research Council, Eagle Forum and Exodus International, all aggressively anti-homosexual.
Just this week, gay rights organization Campus Pride issued a statement claiming that Chick-fil-A gave the organization's executive director, Shane Windmeyer, access to recent Chick-fil-A tax documents. After reviewing the company's 2011 and 2012 financials – which have not been released publicly – Windmeyer said Chick-fil-A no longer gives funds to “the most divisive anti-LGBT groups.”
For a long time, I cast a blind eye towards Chick-fil-A's corporate giving and, through my patronage, contributed to the very religious conservative groups that abhor my existence. Ah, the power of a chicken sandwich. But, when it all came to a head last summer, I could no longer ignore it. I quit supporting Chick-fil-A and said farewell to my favorite beverage, the perfect thirst-quenching combination of a half-and-half tea.
The truth is that Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day was not about freedom of speech. It was simply a thinly veiled protest against homosexuals, period. Those swarms of conservatives weren’t lining up around the block getting waffle fries and chicken sandwiches to protest such lofty ideals as upholding the constitution and protecting the First Amendment. I believe they were showing that they are united against same-sex marriage and against gays, in general.
So, earlier this week I drew a shallow breath of relief when the news surfaced that Chick-fil-A wasn’t as aggressively homophobic and had quit funding the groups. The company website states, “Our intent is not to support political or social agendas.”
The recent news may have influenced me subconsciously stopping and picking up a half-and-half tea just this very morning, the first I’ve had since summer. I enjoyed it thoroughly, but going forward, I’m honestly not certain what I will do - if I will continue my renewed patronage of Chick-fil-A or not. Truthfully, I now have a bit of a bitter taste in my mouth and sadly, my once perfect half-and half tea just doesn’t taste as sweet.
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The simple answer to the title question is.... Why would you want to?
Too bad you don't go out do some volunteer work and stop littering the internet with your pathetic attack on Chick-fil-A. Get a good religious mentor and counselor to work out your problems. Gays are always demanding attention with tacky parades and constant whining. Do the morally-religious folks a favor and stay as far away from Chick-fil-A as possible! We don't want to be around your grossness and demanding attention staved personality.
Yawn. Nice try troll.
You are nothing more than a bigot and probably have little acceptance towards any group of diversity. Your sick statements preaching intolerance are gross and immoral! Who cares if someone is gay or lesbian? I don't! America needs to grieve for sorry people like you!
I agree with your statement whole heartedly, people who choose to practice homosexuality are gross,and tiresome.
Sounds like you are describing evangelicals
Chick-fil-a, Papa John's, Jimmy John's, and Applebee's are restaurants that have lost all of my friends and I for LIFE. We keep a list of such companies on our refrigerators to remind us who they are every day, and we teach our children about them as well, and encourage them to tell their friends not to go to any of them as well. No, such actions alone wont likely put them out of business, but it will certainly amount to profits lost, and over time, us and others involved will hopefully be enough to give their competitors the edge, till they are ruined.
We will never stop, nor forget.
John, believe me when I say this, I know some of your friends and most of them are all frequenting those establishments. They even talk about your feeble mind and how ridiculous you are... Instilling hatred into your children is ignorant and uneducated.
and, sadly, you must add In-n-Out (ironically) to this list.
Thanks for your helpful and hateful reply, ReallyMann! It made me decide to go to the closest LBGT group's headquarters (I know where there's one just ten miles from here), get some pamphlets, and give them some money. May God who created all those gays grant you blessings as well.
Thanks John! Routing this list to my 600+ contacts. Good input.
Calm down drama pants. You make it sound like William Wallace giving his "they can never take our freedom" speech. If you don't want to eat at those places don't, nobody cares, least of all the owners and CEOs of those places. Don't pretend to be a brave freedom fighter. None of those businesses have policies against hiring or serving homosexuals. They aren't harming you or infringing on your rights. If they do, take legal action. The only right that homosexuals don't have that heteros do is marriage, and I agree that it should be corrected. I doubt that you brave stance against horrible corporate foods is going to do anything to change that.
I'm not gay..... Can I go to Home Depot?
Your inference being....?
it is not an inference, it is an implication. inferences are from the standpoint of the reciever of the message
Who cares, their food is terrible! Let the backwards minded people have their redneck grease pit.!
Mike, don't be a backwards educated person. name calling and making unintelligent remarks makes you look as bad as everyone else. Everyone has a right in this country and if chik-fil-a wants to support traditional marriage it's their right. I for one believe life is a long difficult road for many and has many obstacles along the way. Sharing your love with someone should also be your free right. If two men, two women or man and women want to share their love for one another than they should be allowed to. If anything legalizing marriage for everyone will create a mini boom for the economy. Can you imagine how many more caterers, wedding planners and divorce lawyers will have new opportunities.
I Corinthians 6:9-11 is one scripture of many in the Bible which states that homosexuality is wrong. Among other things... This is why Christians are so adamant about denouncing homosexuality – especially when our society is pushing for it to be looked at as something good. Clearly in the Bible, homosexuality is identified as wicked, wrong, perverse, etc;
If I were a thief, would anyone openly accept me if I began informing everyone that I liked to steal from others and it was my lifestyle... and that I was born that way? NOPE!
Well, to God a sin is a sin, from lying, stealing, sex before marriage, homosexuality,etc; There is no degree – It's all forgivable because God is gracious and He loves us sooo much – but our sin separates us from Him.
For all sinners who want their lifestyle to be seen as normal and/or right ... It will never be normal or right in the eyes of God no matter how much the laws are changed in our country. The Bible is clear ...
if homosexuality is not a choice, how can it be a sin?
do you seriously equate gayness with robbing people?
do you seek to deny those who have pre-marital sex their civil rights?
except that the bible is not the law, but simply a book written by men interpreting their views about god and including their human prejudice
wow....where to start?
if being gay is not a choice, how can it be a sin?
do you seriously equate being gay with being a thief?
do you seek to deny those having pre-marital relations their civil rights?
how about those who eat ham? that was in leviticus, too
also, you, neither you nor the iron age sheep molesters who wrote the bible have any authority to speak for god.
There is a special place for people like you and heaven is not it. . .
OOOOOOH! I feel so threatened Megan.........
I think you might be a little confused on the definition of "threat": Threat – a declaration of an intention or determination to inflict punishment, injury, etc., in retaliation for, or conditionally upon, some action or course; menace: He confessed under the threat of imprisonment.
like to try again?
It's Sunday-Can I have Chick-Fil-A now?
I have a gay son. I support gay rights and marriage. I also support the right of everyone to have their own beliefs. The Cathy's good works far outweigh any perceived bias. Just because they don't believe homosexuality is moral, doesn't mean they are evil. Maybe they are right – I don't believe they are, but let's face it, none of us will know until we are pushing up daisies!!! I strongly support their right to voice their opinion as I do the right of Ms. Willis to express her's. If she chooses to show them by not eating food that she likes, that is her problem.
Flashing News: Chick Fil-A welcomes gays...they have a new "enter through the back door" policy.
More heterosexual need to speak out. I don't know what parent wants their child bringing home a mate of the same sex. This gay push by the media "CNN" is crazy. If you don't agree with it some how you are primitive in your thinking. What happened to a person personal views? You can't work for CNN and openly say you are against same sex marriage you'll be out of of job. America is in a sad state of affairs.
Chick-fil-a had never barred gays from eating there. No one had ever commented about their discrimination towards gays because all were served equally. Gays boycotted chick-fil-a over the opinion of chick-fil-a president who is a human being and so will have an opinion and has a right to opinion. So when the boycott is over gays can happily eat at chick-fil-a.
I loathe these conservative evangelicals with their made up GOP religion and fake jesus. The real Jesus did not say a word about Gays or even abortion in the Bible.
hey dumbo yes the bible does preach against homosexuals and abortion
Actually it does.
where does the bible mention the word abortion?
This is stupid. The owner never said he was anti gay. He said marriage should be between a man and woman. He never said anything about banning gay people from his reasturaunt. The gay people banned themselves, with the rediculous boycott, which brought so much attention to the chain, they had record sales!!!!! The owner has every right to state his opinion.
I think it's stupid, too, but not for the reasons you have stated. I think that you have to look at it in terms of how much you enjoy something vs what boycotting it will do to that business. As a chef and health conscious individual, the author probably didn't eat at Chick Fil A more than 2-3 times a month, if that...
is her patronage or lack of really going to make a difference one way or another? if you want a chicken sammitch, then get one!!
why I thought it was stupid is because the author now feels it's okay to eat there since the restaurant chain took certain anti-gay groups off its books. she she REALLY believe that the mindset has changed? lol. and if Chick Fil A really want to keep funding those groups, there are certainly many, many creative ways of doing so.
First of all, it wasn't only gay people who boycotted Chick-Fil-A. And second, NOBODY was boycotting because the owner gave his opinion. Read the article again, Ethan Haunt, the boycott was because the chain was giving money to anti-gay organizations. I am straight and I've been boycotting Chick-Fil-A for years because I don't want any part of my money going to those organizations. I am glad to hear that they have not recently given corporate money to those organizations, but I still will not eat there because the food is really quite tasteless.
Dear Dumbo: Jesus didn't talk about gun control "spear controL', he didn't address discrimination against women, he didn't talk about stock maniupulation, he didn't talk about building codes either you moron!
Gay, Straight, Martian or whatever...if you choose to eat at a place like this, chance are you don't care very much about your health.
Go to the grocery store and buy yourself some healthy food and leave a place like this to the muffin tops of the world. You know, the kind of people who have so little of a life they care about the sexual persuasion of those choosing to eat themselves into an early grave at places like this.
Sure you can eat there, just don't use the toilets. I don't want f@ggot aids.
Surprised he is hungry after swallowing all that sausage!
Got eat at Nathan's, that will satisfy you more!
You two, thank you so much for proving that homophobes are idiots. The writer is a female and stated explicitly in the article that she was a lesbian. Perhaps actually reading the article you're spewing your vile at would help.
You do realize the author is a woman, right?
Heteros spread AIDS, but I guess you're not bright enough to know that.
First of all AIDS is an acronym which stands for "Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome", "aids" is the plural form of "to give help, to assist or to render aid". So let me aid your little pea brain in some knowledge.
AIDS is developed from contracting HIV, which in most cases is passed by unprotected sex or sharing hypodermic needles, you can't get it from passive contact (i.e. kissing, hand-holding or the toilet seat) . HIV/AIDS is not just a "homosexual disease", it transcends sexual orientation, race, gender, and socioeconomic status.
Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Queers and our supporters have a voice and we will be heard. You can't stop the change that's already been initiated, we are on the path to equal rights...So get that through your thick skulls.
What kind of A.I.D.S. do you want?
Haha. I'm in a monogamous, committed relationship of four years. My chances of getting AIDS, is virtually non-existent. How many divorces have you had, by the way?
Neither did I. *sigh* I sure do miss Chick-fil-A, though. And boys.
Gay or straight, why would anyone eat there? The food is lousy.
The entire premise of this article is flawed. I am a conservative Christian. While I oppose gay marriage (as I do not believe homosexuality is God's will for his people) I do not "abhor" the author. To the contrary, I pray for my gay friends as I pray for anybody else mired in sin (including myself.) If the author would get off his high horse and actually learn something about Christianity he would be surprised to learn that we practice much more tolerance than he does.
'god' is an idiotic idea promoted by immoral people to control and pacify the weak minded.
But the idea of men performing sex acts on men and women performing sex acts on women is completely normal is not an idea promoted by immoral people? Yeah right!!!! It't immoral and by nature wrong.
Gotta agree with you there, Bob. It's amazing what people will believe in. They'll believe anything but the truth...
Nothing new here!!...people who are poor and uneducated believe in their bible...the rest use their mind and think...
So you want tolerance as long as it agrees with your narrow minded athiest beleifs. You're a bigot.
I'm not gay, but I have several gay friends, and one thing is very clear: People don't choose to be gay. I don't know if it's nature or nurture, but the bottom line is that some people are just gay, and there's no way for them to change that.
When you try to punish someone for something they can't change, what is that?
What an absurd comment. Science also proves that some people are simply born pedophiles or have an inherent gene that leads them to murder. So do we give them a pass? I am not saying that the two are equal, but you simply can't say "we can't regulate people who are born that way."
I think your comment is absurd. Born gay has nothing to do with people born with a pedofile gene. Were you born heterosexual? Maybe that should be regulated? Geez, get over it. I am a married heterosexual and someone who is gay does not destroy my marriage. Leave them alone, stop hating and live your life.
Here you go again Bill, yes you ARE equating gays to pedophiles. Just by having them in your pitiful excuse for an argument. Pedophiles = breaking the law and violating anothers rights and taking advantage of people who cant defend themselves. Gay = sexuality, lifestyle, trying to gain equal rights. OMG. But go ahead, lump everyone together so you dont have to think about or appreciate the difference becuse your brain is lazy.
DID I JUST HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT TO SOMEONE????
And people are allowed to be that, to have those genes, as long as they don't actually carry out the actions their genes encourage. People are also born with addictive personalities but that doesn't make them alcoholics, they choose to give in to it. Yes, it's much harder for these people to fight the urge to drink or kill than a person who doesn't have that gene, but they can. Other people are raised by abusers who teach them that is how you raise your kids, nurture or nature, they have to fight becoming abusers themselves, but they can and do.
Also, it's not a "murder" gene, it's aggression. Just like n the 50's, it wasn't illegal to be gay, it was illegal to commit sodomy. And there are Christians now who say the same thing, that maybe people don't choose to be gay, but they do choose to express it.
So no, we can't regulate people who are "born that way" or "raised that way" we regulate the way they behave and everyone controls their behaviour, everyone chooses whether or not to give in to things. (Except certain varieties of mentally ill people, who, again, we regulate their behaviour, if they can control it, then they're fine)
Please explain to everyone why you feel that YOU are entitled to regulate what two unmarried consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedroom.
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Please explain to everyone why you feel that YOU (singularly and collectively) are enti-tled to regulate what two unmarried consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedroom.
Every person whom I have even heard (or read) explain their reasoning for thinking that homosexuality is wrong has said that it is because it is against their religion. So to make laws that keep other people from acting on their homosexuality is actually an act of trying to force your religion on other people.
Why do all non-gays have to open their comments with an "I'm not gay, but" preamble? Couldn't you just describe yourself as a sexual being and leave it at that? As a gay man am I supposed to develop some sort of kinship with you because you profess us support, albeit a bit backhanded?
Amigay, I think most straight people do that because they want the small-minded bigots to know that all straight people are not anti-gay. I mentioned in a previous post on this thread that I am not gay because I was responding to a poster who apparently thought it was only gay people who were boycotting Chick-Fil-A. I certainly don't mean for my support of equal rights to appear 'back-handed', because it absolutely is not. I saw a t-shirt for sale once that I thought about buying ... it said "Straight But Not Narrow". I like the phrase, and think it describes me, but I did not buy the t-shirt because I suspected that some gay people might feel as you do, that I was trying to make sure that no one mistake me as being a gay person. After reading your comment, I am glad I did not buy that shirt.
I meant to say "not all straight people are anti-gay", rather than "all straight people are not anti-gay".
The terms Lesbian Christian and Gay Christians are oxymorons. I am referring to the article and the writer's comments. Of course some people believe that just because they believe in Jesus, maybe became baptized, and go to church on Sundays then they are guaranteed a spot in heaven. I am not talking about just gays in this respect but the people who believe God changes his mind to suit the desires of people on earth. I heard an atheist say once that he was told that he was a better Christian than the Christians that that person knew. That was because his morals were higher, he was honest, and he didn't do the wrong things that many people who profess to be Christians do. So called hypocrites. Regardless on that, an atheist could not be a better Christian anyway because an atheist is not a Christian.
To get back on the subject. Just because the owner of Chick-fil-A's.Is a Christian and does not accept gay marriage as an acceptable lifestyle, inline with the Bible, does not mean he is discriminative in nature. He does not have to approve the way you lead your life but he also cannot discriminate against you because of who you are. If he is a true Christian he is supposed to love his neighbor regardless. God is the one that judges. True Christians should actually read the Bible themselves. Most churches are corrupt in one form or another. Don't trust your life to a smooth talking rich pastor or bishop, etc. The Bible – Jesus talks about scribes and pharisees. Who do you think they would be in today's time?
Finally, if you are hungry for a sandwich, buy it or forget about it. Just because you buy something from someone does not mean you support their ideology.
The Bible says: If you eat shrimp, you are an abomination. If you touch the skin of a pig (e.g. a football), you should be stoned to death.
Conservative Christians never mention these parts of the Bible. They only mention the parts about being gay.
Jesus didn't say anything about being gay. There's plenty of room in the Gospels for gay Christians.
If you read ALL of the bible, rather than the little bit you think supports your views, you wouldn't make such a nonsensical statement.
If YOU read all of the Bible you'd know that Jesus never mentiooned gays. Guess it's news to you.
You'd also know then that God said that r@pe victims should be FORCED to marry their rapist. So much for his idea of love and marriage.
You're obviously referring to all the dreck peddled by ministers.
Again, you read the Scripture and forget context... They are not written as abdomination but that it is unclean.. Any if you see on most occasion, was not punished by death... I have not read anything in the Bible that states that eating shrimp leads to punishment of death.. So to make that point, there are weighter matters of punishment for certain sin... Homosexuality and sexual deviation was punished by death and has not changed with Christ's teaching.. Writing of Paul continues to affirm that point... In comparison, what ever goes into stomach is not as important as what comes out of mouth (or heart).... The Bible does not give leadway or acceptance of homosexuality.. It is a SIN! That is what Christians are affirming... We are taught to be loving but we are not to tolerate sin... It is like me trying to love someone who is an alcoholic but not tolerating his drinking problem.. I just want to make the Biblical context clear.. BTW, you can't be both a Christian and a homosexual because if you are a children of God, you want to do the Will of the Father and not tolerate SIN! The logical argument being confirmed again
David R says: "Writing of Paul continues to affirm that point... "
The apostle Pauls constantly refers to a thorn of the flesh, travels with a young man, and seems to single out lesbians. Many Bible scholars suspect Paul was gay.
AMEN! It makes me glad each time I see a Christian who is not rejecting people who are not like them! ( like them being I read my bible and nothing else! ;)
It makes me glad each time I see a Christian who is not rejecting people who are not like them!
Each time a Christian is being a true samaritan makes me glad...
You're missing the point as defenders of Chick-fil-@! generally do. You're absolutely right that buying a chicken sandwich does not amount to supporting an agenda. However, you're conveniently ignoring the fact that providing funds to an organization that funds other organizations with such an agenda is doing exactly that! Hence the boycott.
Dan Cathy is certainly welcome to his beliefs. As are the rest of us. Nobody is telling the owners of Chik-fil-@! what they can or cannot say. This is not a free speech issue. We're simply refusing to fund them any longer due to their decision to use a portion of that money to support an agenda we disagree with. Feel free to eat all the chicken sandwiches you like. It's a free country!
As for your ideas on Christianity? Look. Like all Christians, you pick and choose which passages of the Bible you agree with and you conveniently live your life following the book "as best you can". So who died and made you the judge of man, hmm? Just keep your mouth shut and live your life the way you want to live it, and let others do the same. They aren't going to burn in fictional heck any more than you are, buddy. Get over it!
@Full Plate, Nobody boycotted (or is boycotting) Chick-Fil-A because the owner is Christian, or because he does not believe in gay marriage. It is because the money you spend there is (or was) in part being donated to organizations that are trying to keep gay people from being equal citizens under the law. To make laws that force other American citizens to conform to your religious beliefs is just plain wrong, and I do not want even one penny of my money to go to such Unamerica organizations.
Yes Anderson Cooper, you can go eat at Chik Fil A. I hear they have a great tossed salad.
I don't think anyone was ever refused service at a Chick-fil-A.
the owner is entitled to his opinion – just as you are entitled to yours.
If you are offended, by all means, please stay away.
but you're wanting someone to change their beliefs to fit your world view.
its not going to happen – nor should it.
Anyone with an appreciation for food, regardless of sexual orientation, will have no desire to eat at Chik-fil-A. I tried their food once – it was as bad as most fast food. Starts out with factory farmed chickens and makes them so unhealthy to eat that you can feel yourself gain weight and your arteries harden just by looking at it. No thanks.
Yeah well I'm a non compensated gay Vietnam veteran and I'll eat at whatever establishment I damned well please regardless of whom they support, no gay rights group no matter whom they are or how powerful will ever dictate where I can and cannot eat. I exist in poverty and no gay rights groups of any kind has ever provided me or even offered to provide me with any kind of assistance in fighting the Department Of Veterans Affairs for compensation.
Maybe you could try eating your impoverished computer.
You are but a fool if you support homophobic businesses' profit margin! They should not benefit from being vile and ignorant!
Well wasn't being gay in the Army a no no back during the Vietnam war so technically you wouldn't really shouldn't be getting any benefits because you lied when you first went in....well that's what christian run organizations like chick fil a would probably think. Have fun with supporting a group that thinks you're less then human.
It really isn't chicken, it's ground up kats.......
And now you're going to be famous for being the guy who discovered the "kat".
I'm gay as well.. And I have to tell you, there is no way I would give one penny to any company to anyone who would stick a knife in me.. So, grow up... Are you kidding me here ? Give them your money, and that money will be used to help you stay in 1910... If you are ok with that, then by all means eat their nasty chicken !
Doug: It takes many gay and lesbians time to figure out who they are and accept it. All because you came to accept who you are and live your life in a way that makes you happy, can you then expect an entire society to just magically accept it. It takes time for all people to realize we are all just human and while you might be out of the closet, society isnt yet and you are going to have to be patient while that happens.
Before patronizing any business (restaurant, store, theater, etc.), do you ask where the owners contribute any profits? Do you then refuse to patronize the business if those proifts support any causes that are counter to your beliefs? If not, then STFU.
I love this boycott. It just means I don't have to stand in line as long to get mor chikin.
I happen to be a straight guy who has a lot of lesbian friends. What's the big deal about? All you Christian homophobes know you stroke off to lesbians.
I had a chicken biscuit from there the other morning, and I'm gay. Thank jeebus I didn't choke on it...but then again I'm not married to a man, so maybe I was ok anyway...D**m those prayers to the devil! Chick-fil-A is a gay restaurant anyway..they serve cock for chrissake!
If i am hungary and i drive by chcik fil a I will eat there
If you're Hungary, can I be Czech Republic???!!! Oh please, oh please?!?!
Hands off, buddy! Bobby already promised to invade my Poland. I asked, "Invade my pole and WHAT?"
I think he's a Turkey. ;)
Maybe you can be Czech Republic if you Greece his palm.
The gay people should open up their own restaurant theme... Butt-Goblin-Fil-A! End of story! :P
The title of this article is misleading, probably deliberately so. It implies that Chick-Fil-A was banning gays from eating there beforehand. This isn't Jack Chick-fil-A. It was never THAT bad.
And now, they changed the title of the article.
Chick-Fil-A, you don't know your @&& from your elbow.
Their food is gross, greasy and salty anyways. It's loaded with seasonings to mask the BS aftertaste.
They apparently can't tell those things apart on the chickens either.
First of all let me begin by saying that I don't like the persecution the the homosexual community experiences. What they do is their business and their business alone. They are also entitled to the same rights as any citizen of this country.
Now a question I have to ask. How can you claim to be a Christian and believe that homosexuality is acceptable to God? Have you read the bible? Right or wrong the bible is clear on his thoughts on homosexuality. I'm really just curious because there really is no room for interpretation.
"Can I eat at Chic-Fil-A now?" I don't know, can you? The only thing stopping you is you. There are a lot of businesses run out there by people that don't have the same social and political viewpoint as you. Use their services or don't use them as your conscience dictates. But please stop whining about it.
What if your conscience dictates that you explain to others why you choose (or choose not) to eat at Chick-fil-A? Then, if they complain, they are the ones whining.
if your consious bothers you so much regarding the religious viewpoint of an employee or owner of of Chick a Fill, a view by the way that is not part of their corporate policy and not once has their been any record of overt discrimination,
Then you all need to check every company or place of business from the corner market to the sports teams you support to the medical facilities you use im sure you will find a wide variety of differing private beliefs that may offend you.
The uproar over this has been blown way out of proportion The company has never stated that it would refuse to serve or discriminate against gays or anyone else The statements made were private views based on religious beliefs and not a company wide view point.
You are correct Mitchell, nowhere have I ever read that gay's couldn't eat in their restaurants it's just that chick-fil-a doesn't agree with the gay life style. Anybody with any brains can see it's odd behavior to be gay and there are natural laws against it. There are "in" holes and "out" holes in the human body and you ought not get the two confused.
"God doesn't make mistakes," is certainly an easy statement for the LGBT(QIA) community to fall back on. However, I do wonder how well that statment stands up to fact that God also created indiviiduals such as Jeffrey Dahmer, Stalin, Kony, Manson and oh all the psychopaths shooting up our great country. Now, regardless on whether one's being LGBT is biological or developmental, the right for a company to choose to serve whomever they choose is a basic fundamental right of all business owners (so long as they do not recieve significant government support).
So, are you saying that GOD does make mistakes? If so, are you one of them?
I just wanted to see if I could get someone to respond to a post. Regardless of ones views towards homosexuality, the right of business owners to operate according to thier personal and collective principles is thier right. If those principles end up proving unprofitable, then so be it. Still, until the judiciary system recognizes one's sexual preference as a suspect class (the same way race, national origin, and religion are) then it is thier right to refuse service to individuals based on that preference. Change the laws, don't blame the business that operate within their framework Frank.
A lot of these paradoxes clear up quickly if you just say that this god business is probably a load of crap.
No Thomas, it doesn't work like that. If a business if open to the public it is open to ALL the public not just the ones that the store owner wants to deal with. It is called the Public Accommodation Law and it helps prevent things like sign's outside of stores that say "No Colored People", "Irish Need Not Apply" and the ever popular "White Water Fountain and Colored Water Fountain". It's called discrimination and it's illegal as well as despicable.
Close. Generally groups classified as "Suspect Classes" cannot be discriminated against by businesses that maintain a close governmental involvement (my apologies for not know the correct term here). Congress can do this through the over expansion of the commerce clause of the first ammendment. To date, an individual's sexual preference has not be incorporated into the suspect class protection, which would draw strict scrutiny (meaning the company/corporation would have to demonstrate a compelling and blah blah blah need to discriminate in that way. A business owner certainly may tell someone that they will not serve them on some grounds. Very subjective (thus why we have a judicial system) but certainly within a business owners ability to discriminate based on sexual orientation.
i have never known any chick-fil-et to turn away a gay customer. i don't recall the sign saying "no homos". as long as you have money, they will take it!
No you can't eat chick-fli-a, stop crying and go eat crow.
Or there's always Jack-In-the-Box.
or jack off in a box. It's your choice.
What does that mean? Is it something suggestive as we think it is? Like certain parts of womens? I hope I don't get banned... ;)
The gays should be allowed in a Chick Fil A, as long as they use different bathrooms, just like the 'Colored' folk in the 50s. Gay people can also ride busses...just as long as they sit in the back of the bus. RIGHT ANTI GAY PEOPLE???? SEE HOW FRIGGIN RIDICULOUS YOU SOUND!!!!
First of all there's a big difference between skin color-ethnicity and behavior. This is not the same situation as civil rights for african-americans this is not about rights folks this is about approval. This is about a small group of people working to force the majority to approve of behavior that is morally objectionable
'Morally Objectionable'...WTF???? How dare you put your own judgment on someone? Does not your own religion have a phrase about 'casting the first stone'? Look at your own life and the things you do behind closed doors, or if you think you are holier than thou, think about everyone around you if you can, and you will find something 'Morally Objectionable' about them. In the 50s and early 60's it was "morally objectionable" to sit at the same lunch counter with a black person or have a white child in the same class as a black child. Please take a class or get some education in diversity. Please.
I vet CF about as much as any other business I deal with day in and day out. Unless they have done something so horrific and in your face, I usually don't much care. There is something about everyone and every business I don't like. All of them. I do not see eye to eye with anyone on everything, and know for a fact this is not a one way street. Should I vet CF differently than other businesses? At the end of the day who will I be able to do business with? Dig deep enough and you'll find something, every time.
I do look into the places where I spend my money. I don't eat fast food, but I've always gotten CF's diet lemonade. It's been about 5 years since I've consumed anything from this company because I saw their application for a franchise, and the questions were very shady. Do I have to believe in Jesus an be heterosexual to be honest and hard-working? I refuse to perpetuate any kind of discrimination – race, sex, religion, sexual preference, or size.
BTW – when Henson productions pulled their toy out of Chick Fil-A's kid's meal this summer because of this controversy, the corporation posted signs saying the toys were dangerous for small children and needed to be discontinued. NOT a company I want to patronize.
If I were to ever see those type of questions on an application, I would walk away – immediately. Never mind my views on it, they have no right to ask this type of personal information.
My point was – I don't vet the businesses I do business with. I don't vet the grocery store. I don't vet the vendors of the products/produce I buy I don't vet the pharmacy. All of these at least not to some fine point. They deliver a solid product and I'm happy. If I were an easily offended person (and I'm not), it wouldn't take me long to find something to be offended by with any number of these businesses/vendors.
I do understand what this is all about. I also believe that both sides seem to have those that seem to be more emotionally involved for whatever reason. Lots of things I don't like, but I cannot fight all battles. I have to pick and chose. This one doesn't need another idiot just howling in the wind.
The sooner religion dies off, be it by the populations growing understanding of how dangerous it is or something else, the better. Religion had its uses, now it's time for it to die. Anyone who needs a mythical fairy tale to fall back on when times are hard is a pathetic failure in my opinion.
How is your hatred and derision aimed at believers in God any different from those that direct hatred or derision upon Gays? Oh, yeah, maybe the fact that approximately 2% of the population is gay while roughly 90% of the population believes in God (and not mutually exclusive, I might add).
Hömöséxiality should be illegal like Islamic nations
Homosexuality should be illegal...like speeding.
The Bible has some ridiculous rules for defining "love" and "marriage". Disgraceful.
Read it sometime.
Islamic Nations are not illegal. And thankfully for you neither is totally screwing your point up with bad writing.
The dead chickens really do not care if you are gay.
Excellent question...if you are a dead piece of meat, would you rather be eaten by a straight or gay person?
If I were a dead piece of meat, the only thing that mattered is if the person were enjoying my flesh. Doesnt matter if they are gay, straight, black, white, red...it matters only to the person whose tounge my taste will dance upon!
might be a black gay buzzard....word is they like chicken.
Homosexuality is immoral and abnormal sexual behavior, nothing more. They're not oppressed, and their not heroes. All sex is a choice. We don't condone adultery, beastiality and pedos, and we shouldn't condone homosexuality either. It's just so sad that so many are so warped. But there's turning back now! Go marry your sister or your cow...it's love, no one can judge you.
wow. such laser like insight.
Are you people for real?! Thank the Lord for an organization like Chick-fil-a that closes on Sundays for it's employees, donates (whether you like it or not, it's better than not donating a dime to anyone), provides the best fast food service, and just today gave my daughter a book as a toy in her kids meal. Wow a book, something my kid can actually learn from instead of some cruddy plastic action figure. If only MORE organization were like Chick-fil-a. The fact you creeps are taking jabs at them just shows how messed up society has gotten. I'll continue to support them and if you don't, then thats actually great, at least I won't have to deal with you a-holes while I enjoy a meal.
If I found out I had a gay relative I would disown them in under five seconds.
That's a good idea. It's the best thing you could do for them.
SWE3. Grow up already.
SWE3, if I found out you were my relative or neighbor, I'd disown you.
Duh you have a gay relative. what will they lose when you disown them?
LOL...disown....like you 'owned' them in the first place?!!!! Gay relative says: "Ohhhh release me! Disown me...release me from these shackles!!!! LOL
I dont see what your big deal is...Anal is Anal, whether youre dishing it out to guy or a girl. Get over yourself and enjoy it!
Disown the gays and sleep with your kinfolk. We know the story.
What a true good Christian you are! The world needs more people like you!
i'm sure they would thank you for that, swe3
This is such bullcrap. Trying to pick a fight with a brand.
You aren't gay, you are homosexual. Yes you can eat there. You could before, you can now, and you can in he future.
I heard they were going to open a Roster-fil-a so the gays can still eat and stop whining because someone has a different opinion.
Roster: any list, roll, or register: a roster of famous scientists; a roster of coming events.
Get a life already.
It's a FAST FOOD RESTAURANT, for those hacks who take themselves too seriously.
If Chick-fil-A is involved in war crimes or crimes against humanity, then maybe I won't eat there, but in America, everyone has a right to their opinions. Not every issue on this planet involves "bigotry", "racism", or "discrimination".
Common sense dictates that you eat at a place based on how delicious and affordable the food is, and how nice the ambiance is. Other considerations come in second.
Get a job. You guys are way too free if you can politicize a FAST FOOD RESTAURANT, and none of you had better be parasites on food stamps.
I agree with you on this one. Politicizing a fast food joint. The Media is to blame for most of this.
I know I need to find something better to do, I have a great job but the weather is too bad and I can't fly today, God Bless the Troops, all of them!!
i have qualms about paying patronage to a place that uses the money I give them to do something that I find morally repugnant. I think instead of the writer, or me "getting a life" you need to acquire some values and a spine to go with them.
Me too but do you know how hard it is to avoid every company that supported Obama... rofl
Just because their values don't match yours doesn't mean they have no values. Just different ones. If you are offended, then just quietly don't give them your business. I don't understand all the chest thumping about it. When I decide to not do business somewhere, I just quit doing business there. If asked, I'll say why. Otherwise, no one really cares.
I like your logic...it's this same logic that upsets so many Americans that our tax dollars support things like abortion, and we can't not pay taxes without running the risk of getting in trouble with Uncle Sam. At least if you don't like what a company does, you can boycott that company. And I found this article interesting. Though I think she missed the point of the Appreciation Day. If I remember right, that day was created AFTER the LGBT community announced a boycott of a national restaurant. The conservatives wanted to show their support financially for a group that was being attacked for a CEO expressing his personal beliefs. Soooo one-sided. Shame on anyone for expressing their opinions, if those opinions don't follow what another group wants to hear. And obviously this reply isn't entirely about your post, but once I gt started..
You stated it so simply and hit it right on the head
its a fast food place enjoy it or not it was ony one persons view anyway yes in hind sight it may have been better to keep it a private one but it was not in any way a corporate policy of overt discrimination.
I hate to say it but when a worker tries to Marry a piece of equipment up he attaches the Male end to the Female end and it goes together. Ask a worker what happens when you try to attach a male end to a male end or a female end to a female end, Doesn't work!!
Really?Why don't you go ahead and use your imagination.LOL
Not an Image I want to think about all day!! LOL
Christian and 'values' are 2 words that really don't belong together in this context. Try Christian and 'prejudiced', or Christian and 'hateful' instead' . Don't you think that is more accurate?
I love the Hateful part!! Really? Christians are probably the most diverse in the World. But because we don't believe what you want us to then we are bigots. I have nothing against the way you live your life. Don't try and Make everyone accept your agenda. Marriage is between a Man and a Woman. Plain and simple, has been for Billions of years and now it should be changed? Interesting.
Actually it has been between a man an many women as well.... Why is that not the "proper" marriage?
There is a massive number of Christians out there that has no problem with gay and lesbian people. For you to "speak for all of us" is beyond ridiculous. You are just another example of someone on the far right being on the wrong side of an argument that you will definitely lose in the decades to come.
Marriage has been between a man and a woman for billions of years? Really? Please show me the history of man going back billions of years. Since you brought up the historical aspect of marriage, it has been, in case you haven't noticed, a rather dicey prospect for the heterosexual couples that have signed up for the duration. Percentage-wise, they aren't all that successful. So, stop with the "my way is better that your way" illogical argument. Take it from another straight guy - yes, that is me - your beliefs are outdated and, in the long run, you are going to lose this one. May as well stop the bitterness right now.
The reason men had multiple wives back in the time was that they were bound to take in their brother's wives and take care of them. It was more of a family taking care of family thing.
"The reason men had multiple wives back in the time was that they were bound to take in their brother's wives"
Nonsense, how many of the multiple wives in the Bible were widows of brothers?
King Solomon had 1,000 wives and concubines. Did God ever complain about that? Nope. God said he was the smartest man in the world.
EXACTLY! Gays can have "children" but that child only has the gentic make-up of one which is a serious problem. Thus why the dying out concept comes into play.
So you are trying to present some kind of argument against gays by pointing out that for many objects to link together they need to have dissimilar parts?
Are you serious?
However you want to justify yourself as being natural. Look around, do you see other mammals mating with their same sex. I guess we are the evolved species here because we figured a way around nature. Isn't Nature and evolution part of the Atheist, Agnostic point of view.
However you want to justify yourself as being natural. Look around, do you see other male mammals mating with males same. I guess we are the evolved species here because we figured a way around nature. Isn't Nature and evolution part of the Atheist, Agnostic point of view.
If you looked around you'd see that some animals even change their sex to suit the situation.
I am natural. I'm right-handed like 90% of the population. Are you and your family and friends natural or left-handed?
Like most of what you've said, you got my orientation wrong too. I'm straight.
"EXACTLY! Gays can have "children" but that child only has the gentic make-up of one which is a serious problem. Thus why the dying out concept comes into play."
Putting children in quotes just shows how unrealistic you are. A child is a CHILD. Gays and lesbians can reproduce and could continue to populate the world without "dying out'.
Please get a better education.
Conservative Veteran –
Male and female parts produce gay people. If you're so worried about the existence of gay people, then I suggest you go on crusade to end heterosexual sex. Otherwise just deal with what makes you uncomfortable that you obviosuly cannot cope with that promotes such intrinsic discomfort radiating outward.
And thank you for learning about the birds and the bees at Ace Hardware.
the Gays and Lesbians and Atheists need to understand that the whole country does not have to agree with them on everything. Family values play an important part in this and so do Christian values. Trying to redefine Marriage is not what America wants, less than 50% of the Americans want that and the rest of us want to keep Marriage between a man and Woman like nature intended. For legal rights, call your union something else but leave Marriage alone.
I agree with you and the same goes towards mixing races too. Blacks and whites should not mix. It is despicable and should remain as nature intended. Just because we all have the same equipment for mating does not mean we should mix. The reason for the different colors of people are because we all know who to court and mate with. Blacks stay with blacks and whites stay with whites.
Mainly they want bigots like you to leave them alone and stop trampling on the Constitution. If you want the Bible to define marriage, I'll be over to rape your daughter in the morning. I'll bring a couple of goats to make it official.
Some people have a deep seated psychological need for everyone to agree with them.
Don't agree with me and I won't shop at your store.
Don't agree with me and I won't talk to you even though you live next door.
Don't agree with me and I won't accept your offer to donate money to a good cause we both support.
I can disagree with someone and still be on friendly terms. That is a skill forced on me by a stretch in the army and later many years in a large factory with hundreds of employees. I had to learn to be tolerant of differing views in order to be effective at my job. That doesn't mean I cave in to them, compromise, or accept their views just to have peace. I accept that not everyone is going to agree with me.
That's life, get over it and get on with it.
It is amazing that when I post a conservative point of view on this subject it has to await moderation. I said nothing hateful or untrue. CNN is really a liberal organization isn't it. Only the liberal agenda gets posted.
Now don't go freaking out- conservative dude.It's not at all like a conservative to be paranoid.Perhaps you might enjoy posting over on the fair and balanced web-site.What,they don't allow freedom of speech over there?What are THEY afraid of?
I am a liberal. Just posted a liberal point of view on the subject. No bad language, nothing out of order. Guess what? It is "awaiting moderation." So, don't get your underwear all up in a bunch and start with the CNN conspiracy theories on the far right. Relax.