Opinion: Chick-fil-A controversy leaves a bitter taste for some longtime fans
January 31st, 2013
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Chefs with Issues is a platform for chefs and farmers we love, fired up for causes about which they're passionate. Virginia Willis, a graduate of L'Academie de Cuisine and Ecole de Cuisine LaVarenne, is the author of "Bon Appétit, Y’all" and "Basic to Brilliant, Y'all."

As a chef and food writer, I rarely eat fast food. The quality is generally atrocious and much of it is radically unhealthy. The menu offerings are the polar opposite of local and seasonal. There are dire implications concerning worker’s rights and wages, as well as animal welfare and factory farms.

It doesn’t matter where you are in the country, every interstate exit is identical with the same usual suspects offering the same sad sacks of chemically laced, artificially flavored fare, all swimming in high-fructose corn syrup. Cheap, fast food is at the core of what is wrong with our food system.

Yet, there’s one thing that trumps my French-training and chef sensibilities; I love Chick-fil-A.

As a native Georgian, it’s been a part of my life my entire life. Chick-fil-A is a Southern institution. It’s the only place in America where you can ask for a “half and half” and receive a perfect blend of sweet and unsweetened tea, not a dairy product. In truth, the quality of Chick-fil-A food is superior to many fast food establishments. The salads, slaws, tea and lemonade are made daily from scratch in the restaurants, not at a commissary kitchen seven states away.

My favorite sandwich is the classic fried chicken sandwich on the buttered bun. The steam from the slightly sweet, golden brown chicken condenses inside the foil-lined package and wilts the bread, just enough. I prefer plain, no lettuce, no tomato, just mayonnaise, and the perfect pop of sour pickle.

I’ve always known that founder Truett Cathy was a religiously conservative Christian. I applaud the fact that he’s closed on Sundays and strong in his faith. The outlets are part of the local community, supporting the schools and sports teams. I admire the work of Chick-fil-A’s WinShape Foundation in regards to foster homes, scholarships and education, food donations for disaster relief, first responders and the military. Service, volunteering and giving back are at the heart of Chick-fil-A, qualities I aspire to, advocate and admire.

I, too, am a Christian. I am also a lesbian. And while many religious conservatives think I am going to burn in hell and my existence is a crime against nature, I refuse to believe that God doesn’t love me because I am gay. I refuse to believe that God made a mistake.

I refuse to believe that something is wrong with me and I need “conversion therapy.” I refuse to call those anti-same sex marriage groups "pro-family" because that doesn’t include my very real family, my love and my commitment to my partner. I also absolutely refuse to believe that if I choose to marry another woman that I am somehow harming the institution of marriage.

Controversy erupted last summer with Chick-fil-A president and chief operating officer Dan Cathy's remarks about being against gay marriage, “guilty as charged.” It led to Mike Huckabee’s crusade, Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day and the subsequent boycott of Chick-fil-A by gay, lesbian and like-minded individuals, myself included.

The Chick-fil-A website states that the corporate giving has been “mischaracterized.” Well, there’s nothing “mischaracterizing” about their – now former – funding of the ultra-conservative groups such as Family Research Council, Eagle Forum and Exodus International, all aggressively anti-homosexual.

Just this week, gay rights organization Campus Pride issued a statement claiming that Chick-fil-A gave the organization's executive director, Shane Windmeyer, access to recent Chick-fil-A tax documents. After reviewing the company's 2011 and 2012 financials – which have not been released publicly – Windmeyer said Chick-fil-A no longer gives funds to “the most divisive anti-LGBT groups.”

For a long time, I cast a blind eye towards Chick-fil-A's corporate giving and, through my patronage, contributed to the very religious conservative groups that abhor my existence. Ah, the power of a chicken sandwich. But, when it all came to a head last summer, I could no longer ignore it. I quit supporting Chick-fil-A and said farewell to my favorite beverage, the perfect thirst-quenching combination of a half-and-half tea.

The truth is that Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day was not about freedom of speech. It was simply a thinly veiled protest against homosexuals, period. Those swarms of conservatives weren’t lining up around the block getting waffle fries and chicken sandwiches to protest such lofty ideals as upholding the constitution and protecting the First Amendment. I believe they were showing that they are united against same-sex marriage and against gays, in general.

So, earlier this week I drew a shallow breath of relief when the news surfaced that Chick-fil-A wasn’t as aggressively homophobic and had quit funding the groups. The company website states, “Our intent is not to support political or social agendas.”

The recent news may have influenced me subconsciously stopping and picking up a half-and-half tea just this very morning, the first I’ve had since summer. I enjoyed it thoroughly, but going forward, I’m honestly not certain what I will do - if I will continue my renewed patronage of Chick-fil-A or not. Truthfully, I now have a bit of a bitter taste in my mouth and sadly, my once perfect half-and half tea just doesn’t taste as sweet.

Previously - Opinion: Why I’m celebrating Chick-fil-Gay Appreciation Day and Fast food with a side of faith and Chicken and politics

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  1. RLF

    The simple answer to the title question is.... Why would you want to?

    February 3, 2013 at 11:47 am |
  2. Grieving for America

    Too bad you don't go out do some volunteer work and stop littering the internet with your pathetic attack on Chick-fil-A. Get a good religious mentor and counselor to work out your problems. Gays are always demanding attention with tacky parades and constant whining. Do the morally-religious folks a favor and stay as far away from Chick-fil-A as possible! We don't want to be around your grossness and demanding attention staved personality.

    February 3, 2013 at 11:32 am |
    • RLF

      Oh, please...

      February 3, 2013 at 11:53 am |
    • fuzzynormal

      Yawn. Nice try troll.

      February 3, 2013 at 11:54 am |
    • Joe Moe

      Good one!

      February 3, 2013 at 12:08 pm |
    • Scooter

      You are nothing more than a bigot and probably have little acceptance towards any group of diversity. Your sick statements preaching intolerance are gross and immoral! Who cares if someone is gay or lesbian? I don't! America needs to grieve for sorry people like you!

      February 3, 2013 at 12:09 pm |
    • Lexxs

      I agree with your statement whole heartedly, people who choose to practice homosexuality are gross,and tiresome.

      February 3, 2013 at 12:14 pm |
      • sam stone

        Sounds like you are describing evangelicals

        February 3, 2013 at 4:33 pm |
  3. JohnB45

    Chick-fil-a, Papa John's, Jimmy John's, and Applebee's are restaurants that have lost all of my friends and I for LIFE. We keep a list of such companies on our refrigerators to remind us who they are every day, and we teach our children about them as well, and encourage them to tell their friends not to go to any of them as well. No, such actions alone wont likely put them out of business, but it will certainly amount to profits lost, and over time, us and others involved will hopefully be enough to give their competitors the edge, till they are ruined.

    We will never stop, nor forget.

    February 3, 2013 at 11:24 am |
    • reallymann

      John, believe me when I say this, I know some of your friends and most of them are all frequenting those establishments. They even talk about your feeble mind and how ridiculous you are... Instilling hatred into your children is ignorant and uneducated.

      February 3, 2013 at 11:28 am |
      • RLF

        and, sadly, you must add In-n-Out (ironically) to this list.

        February 3, 2013 at 12:14 pm |
      • Tom

        Thanks for your helpful and hateful reply, ReallyMann! It made me decide to go to the closest LBGT group's headquarters (I know where there's one just ten miles from here), get some pamphlets, and give them some money. May God who created all those gays grant you blessings as well.

        February 3, 2013 at 12:17 pm |
    • RLF

      Thanks John! Routing this list to my 600+ contacts. Good input.

      February 3, 2013 at 11:59 am |
    • Greg Kells

      Calm down drama pants. You make it sound like William Wallace giving his "they can never take our freedom" speech. If you don't want to eat at those places don't, nobody cares, least of all the owners and CEOs of those places. Don't pretend to be a brave freedom fighter. None of those businesses have policies against hiring or serving homosexuals. They aren't harming you or infringing on your rights. If they do, take legal action. The only right that homosexuals don't have that heteros do is marriage, and I agree that it should be corrected. I doubt that you brave stance against horrible corporate foods is going to do anything to change that.

      February 3, 2013 at 1:41 pm |
  4. Mark

    I'm not gay..... Can I go to Home Depot?

    February 3, 2013 at 11:23 am |
    • RLF

      Your inference being....?

      February 3, 2013 at 12:10 pm |
      • sam stone

        it is not an inference, it is an implication. inferences are from the standpoint of the reciever of the message

        February 3, 2013 at 1:48 pm |
  5. Mike

    Who cares, their food is terrible! Let the backwards minded people have their redneck grease pit.!

    February 3, 2013 at 11:11 am |
    • reallymann

      Mike, don't be a backwards educated person. name calling and making unintelligent remarks makes you look as bad as everyone else. Everyone has a right in this country and if chik-fil-a wants to support traditional marriage it's their right. I for one believe life is a long difficult road for many and has many obstacles along the way. Sharing your love with someone should also be your free right. If two men, two women or man and women want to share their love for one another than they should be allowed to. If anything legalizing marriage for everyone will create a mini boom for the economy. Can you imagine how many more caterers, wedding planners and divorce lawyers will have new opportunities.

      February 3, 2013 at 11:24 am |
  6. You

    I Corinthians 6:9-11 is one scripture of many in the Bible which states that homosexuality is wrong. Among other things... This is why Christians are so adamant about denouncing homosexuality – especially when our society is pushing for it to be looked at as something good. Clearly in the Bible, homosexuality is identified as wicked, wrong, perverse, etc;

    If I were a thief, would anyone openly accept me if I began informing everyone that I liked to steal from others and it was my lifestyle... and that I was born that way? NOPE!

    Well, to God a sin is a sin, from lying, stealing, sex before marriage, homosexuality,etc; There is no degree – It's all forgivable because God is gracious and He loves us sooo much – but our sin separates us from Him.

    For all sinners who want their lifestyle to be seen as normal and/or right ... It will never be normal or right in the eyes of God no matter how much the laws are changed in our country. The Bible is clear ...

    February 3, 2013 at 11:10 am |
    • sam stone


      if homosexuality is not a choice, how can it be a sin?

      do you seriously equate gayness with robbing people?

      do you seek to deny those who have pre-marital sex their civil rights?

      February 3, 2013 at 11:34 am |
    • vic

      except that the bible is not the law, but simply a book written by men interpreting their views about god and including their human prejudice

      February 3, 2013 at 11:41 am |
    • sam stone

      wow....where to start?

      if being gay is not a choice, how can it be a sin?
      do you seriously equate being gay with being a thief?
      do you seek to deny those having pre-marital relations their civil rights?
      how about those who eat ham? that was in leviticus, too

      February 3, 2013 at 11:45 am |
    • sam stone

      also, you, neither you nor the iron age sheep molesters who wrote the bible have any authority to speak for god.

      February 3, 2013 at 11:48 am |
    • Megan

      There is a special place for people like you and heaven is not it. . .

      February 3, 2013 at 12:07 pm |
      • stacheman

        OOOOOOH! I feel so threatened Megan.........

        February 3, 2013 at 12:41 pm |
        • Megan

          I think you might be a little confused on the definition of "threat": Threat – a declaration of an intention or determination to inflict punishment, injury, etc., in retaliation for, or conditionally upon, some action or course; menace: He confessed under the threat of imprisonment.

          like to try again?

          February 3, 2013 at 2:00 pm |
    • Joe Moe

      Amen brother!

      February 3, 2013 at 12:10 pm |
  7. CSUguy

    It's Sunday-Can I have Chick-Fil-A now?

    February 3, 2013 at 11:09 am |
  8. John

    I have a gay son. I support gay rights and marriage. I also support the right of everyone to have their own beliefs. The Cathy's good works far outweigh any perceived bias. Just because they don't believe homosexuality is moral, doesn't mean they are evil. Maybe they are right – I don't believe they are, but let's face it, none of us will know until we are pushing up daisies!!! I strongly support their right to voice their opinion as I do the right of Ms. Willis to express her's. If she chooses to show them by not eating food that she likes, that is her problem.

    February 3, 2013 at 10:43 am |
  9. mattyo

    Flashing News: Chick Fil-A welcomes gays...they have a new "enter through the back door" policy.

    February 3, 2013 at 10:18 am |
  10. Veronica Sawyer

    More heterosexual need to speak out. I don't know what parent wants their child bringing home a mate of the same sex. This gay push by the media "CNN" is crazy. If you don't agree with it some how you are primitive in your thinking. What happened to a person personal views? You can't work for CNN and openly say you are against same sex marriage you'll be out of of job. America is in a sad state of affairs.

    February 3, 2013 at 10:03 am |
  11. Ethan Haunt

    Chick-fil-a had never barred gays from eating there. No one had ever commented about their discrimination towards gays because all were served equally. Gays boycotted chick-fil-a over the opinion of chick-fil-a president who is a human being and so will have an opinion and has a right to opinion. So when the boycott is over gays can happily eat at chick-fil-a.

    February 3, 2013 at 9:40 am |
    • Dumbo

      I loathe these conservative evangelicals with their made up GOP religion and fake jesus. The real Jesus did not say a word about Gays or even abortion in the Bible.

      February 3, 2013 at 10:23 am |
      • rk

        hey dumbo yes the bible does preach against homosexuals and abortion

        February 3, 2013 at 11:16 am |
      • Not-so-Dumbo

        Actually it does.

        February 3, 2013 at 11:19 am |
      • sam stone

        where does the bible mention the word abortion?

        February 3, 2013 at 11:53 am |
    • abs7125

      This is stupid. The owner never said he was anti gay. He said marriage should be between a man and woman. He never said anything about banning gay people from his reasturaunt. The gay people banned themselves, with the rediculous boycott, which brought so much attention to the chain, they had record sales!!!!! The owner has every right to state his opinion.

      February 3, 2013 at 10:35 am |
      • fooloof

        I think it's stupid, too, but not for the reasons you have stated. I think that you have to look at it in terms of how much you enjoy something vs what boycotting it will do to that business. As a chef and health conscious individual, the author probably didn't eat at Chick Fil A more than 2-3 times a month, if that...

        is her patronage or lack of really going to make a difference one way or another? if you want a chicken sammitch, then get one!!

        why I thought it was stupid is because the author now feels it's okay to eat there since the restaurant chain took certain anti-gay groups off its books. she she REALLY believe that the mindset has changed? lol. and if Chick Fil A really want to keep funding those groups, there are certainly many, many creative ways of doing so.

        February 3, 2013 at 11:13 am |
    • wufusk

      First of all, it wasn't only gay people who boycotted Chick-Fil-A. And second, NOBODY was boycotting because the owner gave his opinion. Read the article again, Ethan Haunt, the boycott was because the chain was giving money to anti-gay organizations. I am straight and I've been boycotting Chick-Fil-A for years because I don't want any part of my money going to those organizations. I am glad to hear that they have not recently given corporate money to those organizations, but I still will not eat there because the food is really quite tasteless.

      February 3, 2013 at 11:17 am |
    • davefromtexas

      Dear Dumbo: Jesus didn't talk about gun control "spear controL', he didn't address discrimination against women, he didn't talk about stock maniupulation, he didn't talk about building codes either you moron!

      February 3, 2013 at 11:20 am |
  12. truth

    Gay, Straight, Martian or whatever...if you choose to eat at a place like this, chance are you don't care very much about your health.

    Go to the grocery store and buy yourself some healthy food and leave a place like this to the muffin tops of the world. You know, the kind of people who have so little of a life they care about the sexual persuasion of those choosing to eat themselves into an early grave at places like this.

    February 3, 2013 at 9:30 am |
  13. Meki60

    Sure you can eat there, just don't use the toilets. I don't want f@ggot aids.

    February 3, 2013 at 9:14 am |
    • Luvdameat

      Surprised he is hungry after swallowing all that sausage!

      Got eat at Nathan's, that will satisfy you more!

      February 3, 2013 at 9:24 am |
      • Amphisbaena

        You two, thank you so much for proving that homophobes are idiots. The writer is a female and stated explicitly in the article that she was a lesbian. Perhaps actually reading the article you're spewing your vile at would help.

        February 3, 2013 at 10:04 am |
      • Josh F

        You do realize the author is a woman, right?

        February 3, 2013 at 11:33 am |
    • Observer

      Heteros spread AIDS, but I guess you're not bright enough to know that.

      February 3, 2013 at 9:29 am |
    • yeshomo

      First of all AIDS is an acronym which stands for "Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome", "aids" is the plural form of "to give help, to assist or to render aid". So let me aid your little pea brain in some knowledge.

      AIDS is developed from contracting HIV, which in most cases is passed by unprotected sex or sharing hypodermic needles, you can't get it from passive contact (i.e. kissing, hand-holding or the toilet seat) . HIV/AIDS is not just a "homosexual disease", it transcends sexual orientation, race, gender, and socioeconomic status.

      Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Queers and our supporters have a voice and we will be heard. You can't stop the change that's already been initiated, we are on the path to equal rights...So get that through your thick skulls.

      February 3, 2013 at 10:52 am |
    • sam stone

      What kind of A.I.D.S. do you want?

      February 3, 2013 at 12:07 pm |
      • yeshomo

        Haha. I'm in a monogamous, committed relationship of four years. My chances of getting AIDS, is virtually non-existent. How many divorces have you had, by the way?

        February 3, 2013 at 4:29 pm |
    • Rock Hudson

      Neither did I. *sigh* I sure do miss Chick-fil-A, though. And boys.

      February 3, 2013 at 2:36 pm |
  14. amigay

    Gay or straight, why would anyone eat there? The food is lousy.

    February 3, 2013 at 9:11 am |
  15. Bill C

    The entire premise of this article is flawed. I am a conservative Christian. While I oppose gay marriage (as I do not believe homosexuality is God's will for his people) I do not "abhor" the author. To the contrary, I pray for my gay friends as I pray for anybody else mired in sin (including myself.) If the author would get off his high horse and actually learn something about Christianity he would be surprised to learn that we practice much more tolerance than he does.

    February 3, 2013 at 9:08 am |
  16. Bob Weaver

    'god' is an idiotic idea promoted by immoral people to control and pacify the weak minded.

    February 3, 2013 at 8:30 am |
    • Veronica Sawyer

      But the idea of men performing sex acts on men and women performing sex acts on women is completely normal is not an idea promoted by immoral people? Yeah right!!!! It't immoral and by nature wrong.

      February 3, 2013 at 9:58 am |
    • jamiearcher

      Gotta agree with you there, Bob. It's amazing what people will believe in. They'll believe anything but the truth...

      February 3, 2013 at 10:07 am |
      • Anyes Pelaez-Vedel

        Nothing new here!!...people who are poor and uneducated believe in their bible...the rest use their mind and think...

        February 3, 2013 at 10:44 am |
        • Ben

          So you want tolerance as long as it agrees with your narrow minded athiest beleifs. You're a bigot.

          February 3, 2013 at 11:04 am |
  17. dogmandg

    I'm not gay, but I have several gay friends, and one thing is very clear: People don't choose to be gay. I don't know if it's nature or nurture, but the bottom line is that some people are just gay, and there's no way for them to change that.

    When you try to punish someone for something they can't change, what is that?

    February 3, 2013 at 8:17 am |
    • Bill C

      What an absurd comment. Science also proves that some people are simply born pedophiles or have an inherent gene that leads them to murder. So do we give them a pass? I am not saying that the two are equal, but you simply can't say "we can't regulate people who are born that way."

      February 3, 2013 at 9:05 am |
      • Tammy

        I think your comment is absurd. Born gay has nothing to do with people born with a pedofile gene. Were you born heterosexual? Maybe that should be regulated? Geez, get over it. I am a married heterosexual and someone who is gay does not destroy my marriage. Leave them alone, stop hating and live your life.

        February 3, 2013 at 9:56 am |
      • mattyo

        Here you go again Bill, yes you ARE equating gays to pedophiles. Just by having them in your pitiful excuse for an argument. Pedophiles = breaking the law and violating anothers rights and taking advantage of people who cant defend themselves. Gay = sexuality, lifestyle, trying to gain equal rights. OMG. But go ahead, lump everyone together so you dont have to think about or appreciate the difference becuse your brain is lazy.

        February 3, 2013 at 10:10 am |
      • Amphisbaena

        And people are allowed to be that, to have those genes, as long as they don't actually carry out the actions their genes encourage. People are also born with addictive personalities but that doesn't make them alcoholics, they choose to give in to it. Yes, it's much harder for these people to fight the urge to drink or kill than a person who doesn't have that gene, but they can. Other people are raised by abusers who teach them that is how you raise your kids, nurture or nature, they have to fight becoming abusers themselves, but they can and do.
        Also, it's not a "murder" gene, it's aggression. Just like n the 50's, it wasn't illegal to be gay, it was illegal to commit sodomy. And there are Christians now who say the same thing, that maybe people don't choose to be gay, but they do choose to express it.
        So no, we can't regulate people who are "born that way" or "raised that way" we regulate the way they behave and everyone controls their behaviour, everyone chooses whether or not to give in to things. (Except certain varieties of mentally ill people, who, again, we regulate their behaviour, if they can control it, then they're fine)

        February 3, 2013 at 10:15 am |
        • Observer


          Please explain to everyone why you feel that YOU are entitled to regulate what two unmarried consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedroom.

          February 3, 2013 at 10:24 am |
        • Observer

          Your comment is awaiting moderation.


          Please explain to everyone why you feel that YOU (singularly and collectively) are enti-tled to regulate what two unmarried consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedroom.

          February 3, 2013 at 10:30 am |
        • wufusk

          Every person whom I have even heard (or read) explain their reasoning for thinking that homosexuality is wrong has said that it is because it is against their religion. So to make laws that keep other people from acting on their homosexuality is actually an act of trying to force your religion on other people.

          February 3, 2013 at 11:26 am |
    • amigay

      Why do all non-gays have to open their comments with an "I'm not gay, but" preamble? Couldn't you just describe yourself as a sexual being and leave it at that? As a gay man am I supposed to develop some sort of kinship with you because you profess us support, albeit a bit backhanded?

      February 3, 2013 at 9:06 am |
      • wufusk

        Amigay, I think most straight people do that because they want the small-minded bigots to know that all straight people are not anti-gay. I mentioned in a previous post on this thread that I am not gay because I was responding to a poster who apparently thought it was only gay people who were boycotting Chick-Fil-A. I certainly don't mean for my support of equal rights to appear 'back-handed', because it absolutely is not. I saw a t-shirt for sale once that I thought about buying ... it said "Straight But Not Narrow". I like the phrase, and think it describes me, but I did not buy the t-shirt because I suspected that some gay people might feel as you do, that I was trying to make sure that no one mistake me as being a gay person. After reading your comment, I am glad I did not buy that shirt.

        February 3, 2013 at 11:39 am |
        • wufusk

          I meant to say "not all straight people are anti-gay", rather than "all straight people are not anti-gay".

          February 3, 2013 at 11:43 am |
  18. Full Plate

    The terms Lesbian Christian and Gay Christians are oxymorons. I am referring to the article and the writer's comments. Of course some people believe that just because they believe in Jesus, maybe became baptized, and go to church on Sundays then they are guaranteed a spot in heaven. I am not talking about just gays in this respect but the people who believe God changes his mind to suit the desires of people on earth. I heard an atheist say once that he was told that he was a better Christian than the Christians that that person knew. That was because his morals were higher, he was honest, and he didn't do the wrong things that many people who profess to be Christians do. So called hypocrites. Regardless on that, an atheist could not be a better Christian anyway because an atheist is not a Christian.

    To get back on the subject. Just because the owner of Chick-fil-A's.Is a Christian and does not accept gay marriage as an acceptable lifestyle, inline with the Bible, does not mean he is discriminative in nature. He does not have to approve the way you lead your life but he also cannot discriminate against you because of who you are. If he is a true Christian he is supposed to love his neighbor regardless. God is the one that judges. True Christians should actually read the Bible themselves. Most churches are corrupt in one form or another. Don't trust your life to a smooth talking rich pastor or bishop, etc. The Bible – Jesus talks about scribes and pharisees. Who do you think they would be in today's time?

    Finally, if you are hungry for a sandwich, buy it or forget about it. Just because you buy something from someone does not mean you support their ideology.

    February 3, 2013 at 8:17 am |
    • dogmandg

      The Bible says: If you eat shrimp, you are an abomination. If you touch the skin of a pig (e.g. a football), you should be stoned to death.

      Conservative Christians never mention these parts of the Bible. They only mention the parts about being gay.

      Jesus didn't say anything about being gay. There's plenty of room in the Gospels for gay Christians.

      February 3, 2013 at 8:32 am |
      • ABarker

        If you read ALL of the bible, rather than the little bit you think supports your views, you wouldn't make such a nonsensical statement.

        February 3, 2013 at 8:44 am |
        • Observer


          If YOU read all of the Bible you'd know that Jesus never mentiooned gays. Guess it's news to you.

          You'd also know then that God said that r@pe victims should be FORCED to marry their rapist. So much for his idea of love and marriage.

          February 3, 2013 at 9:06 am |
        • amigay

          You're obviously referring to all the dreck peddled by ministers.

          February 3, 2013 at 9:09 am |
      • David R

        Again, you read the Scripture and forget context... They are not written as abdomination but that it is unclean.. Any if you see on most occasion, was not punished by death... I have not read anything in the Bible that states that eating shrimp leads to punishment of death.. So to make that point, there are weighter matters of punishment for certain sin... Homosexuality and sexual deviation was punished by death and has not changed with Christ's teaching.. Writing of Paul continues to affirm that point... In comparison, what ever goes into stomach is not as important as what comes out of mouth (or heart).... The Bible does not give leadway or acceptance of homosexuality.. It is a SIN! That is what Christians are affirming... We are taught to be loving but we are not to tolerate sin... It is like me trying to love someone who is an alcoholic but not tolerating his drinking problem.. I just want to make the Biblical context clear.. BTW, you can't be both a Christian and a homosexual because if you are a children of God, you want to do the Will of the Father and not tolerate SIN! The logical argument being confirmed again

        February 3, 2013 at 8:50 am |
        • dogmandg

          David R says: "Writing of Paul continues to affirm that point... "

          The apostle Pauls constantly refers to a thorn of the flesh, travels with a young man, and seems to single out lesbians. Many Bible scholars suspect Paul was gay.

          February 3, 2013 at 2:51 pm |
      • Anyes Pelaez-Vedel


        February 3, 2013 at 10:46 am |
      • Anyes Pelaez-Vedel

        AMEN! It makes me glad each time I see a Christian who is not rejecting people who are not like them! ( like them being I read my bible and nothing else! ;)

        February 3, 2013 at 10:48 am |
      • Anyes Pelaez-Vedel

        It makes me glad each time I see a Christian who is not rejecting people who are not like them!

        February 3, 2013 at 10:49 am |
      • Anyes Pelaez-Vedel

        Each time a Christian is being a true samaritan makes me glad...

        February 3, 2013 at 10:51 am |
    • Odds

      You're missing the point as defenders of Chick-fil-@! generally do. You're absolutely right that buying a chicken sandwich does not amount to supporting an agenda. However, you're conveniently ignoring the fact that providing funds to an organization that funds other organizations with such an agenda is doing exactly that! Hence the boycott.

      Dan Cathy is certainly welcome to his beliefs. As are the rest of us. Nobody is telling the owners of Chik-fil-@! what they can or cannot say. This is not a free speech issue. We're simply refusing to fund them any longer due to their decision to use a portion of that money to support an agenda we disagree with. Feel free to eat all the chicken sandwiches you like. It's a free country!

      As for your ideas on Christianity? Look. Like all Christians, you pick and choose which passages of the Bible you agree with and you conveniently live your life following the book "as best you can". So who died and made you the judge of man, hmm? Just keep your mouth shut and live your life the way you want to live it, and let others do the same. They aren't going to burn in fictional heck any more than you are, buddy. Get over it!

      February 3, 2013 at 9:09 am |
    • wufusk

      @Full Plate, Nobody boycotted (or is boycotting) Chick-Fil-A because the owner is Christian, or because he does not believe in gay marriage. It is because the money you spend there is (or was) in part being donated to organizations that are trying to keep gay people from being equal citizens under the law. To make laws that force other American citizens to conform to your religious beliefs is just plain wrong, and I do not want even one penny of my money to go to such Unamerica organizations.

      February 3, 2013 at 11:51 am |
  19. Don K Bauls

    Yes Anderson Cooper, you can go eat at Chik Fil A. I hear they have a great tossed salad.

    February 3, 2013 at 8:06 am |
  20. carl

    I don't think anyone was ever refused service at a Chick-fil-A.
    the owner is entitled to his opinion – just as you are entitled to yours.
    If you are offended, by all means, please stay away.
    but you're wanting someone to change their beliefs to fit your world view.
    its not going to happen – nor should it.

    February 3, 2013 at 7:13 am |
  21. MattBMO

    Anyone with an appreciation for food, regardless of sexual orientation, will have no desire to eat at Chik-fil-A. I tried their food once – it was as bad as most fast food. Starts out with factory farmed chickens and makes them so unhealthy to eat that you can feel yourself gain weight and your arteries harden just by looking at it. No thanks.

    February 3, 2013 at 7:08 am |
  22. jadefalcon

    Yeah well I'm a non compensated gay Vietnam veteran and I'll eat at whatever establishment I damned well please regardless of whom they support, no gay rights group no matter whom they are or how powerful will ever dictate where I can and cannot eat. I exist in poverty and no gay rights groups of any kind has ever provided me or even offered to provide me with any kind of assistance in fighting the Department Of Veterans Affairs for compensation.

    February 3, 2013 at 6:14 am |
    • SixDegrees

      Maybe you could try eating your impoverished computer.

      February 3, 2013 at 7:06 am |
    • bill

      You are but a fool if you support homophobic businesses' profit margin! They should not benefit from being vile and ignorant!

      February 3, 2013 at 7:16 am |
    • Patty

      Well wasn't being gay in the Army a no no back during the Vietnam war so technically you wouldn't really shouldn't be getting any benefits because you lied when you first went in....well that's what christian run organizations like chick fil a would probably think. Have fun with supporting a group that thinks you're less then human.

      February 3, 2013 at 8:09 am |

    It really isn't chicken, it's ground up kats.......

    February 3, 2013 at 5:03 am |
    • Carl

      And now you're going to be famous for being the guy who discovered the "kat".

      February 3, 2013 at 5:51 am |
      • Doug

        I'm gay as well.. And I have to tell you, there is no way I would give one penny to any company to anyone who would stick a knife in me.. So, grow up... Are you kidding me here ? Give them your money, and that money will be used to help you stay in 1910... If you are ok with that, then by all means eat their nasty chicken !

        February 3, 2013 at 5:56 am |
        • Salvaje

          Doug: It takes many gay and lesbians time to figure out who they are and accept it. All because you came to accept who you are and live your life in a way that makes you happy, can you then expect an entire society to just magically accept it. It takes time for all people to realize we are all just human and while you might be out of the closet, society isnt yet and you are going to have to be patient while that happens.

          February 3, 2013 at 6:25 am |
        • ChickenLover

          Before patronizing any business (restaurant, store, theater, etc.), do you ask where the owners contribute any profits? Do you then refuse to patronize the business if those proifts support any causes that are counter to your beliefs? If not, then STFU.

          February 3, 2013 at 7:42 am |
        • Honest John

          I love this boycott. It just means I don't have to stand in line as long to get mor chikin.

          February 3, 2013 at 9:32 am |
  24. WhatNext

    I happen to be a straight guy who has a lot of lesbian friends. What's the big deal about? All you Christian homophobes know you stroke off to lesbians.

    February 3, 2013 at 3:33 am |
  25. Jay

    I had a chicken biscuit from there the other morning, and I'm gay. Thank jeebus I didn't choke on it...but then again I'm not married to a man, so maybe I was ok anyway...D**m those prayers to the devil! Chick-fil-A is a gay restaurant anyway..they serve cock for chrissake!

    February 3, 2013 at 3:32 am |
  26. Bobby Trendy

    If i am hungary and i drive by chcik fil a I will eat there

    February 3, 2013 at 3:28 am |
    • Jay

      If you're Hungary, can I be Czech Republic???!!! Oh please, oh please?!?!

      February 3, 2013 at 3:34 am |
      • Carl

        Hands off, buddy! Bobby already promised to invade my Poland. I asked, "Invade my pole and WHAT?"

        February 3, 2013 at 6:06 am |
      • PJ

        I think he's a Turkey. ;)

        February 3, 2013 at 6:59 am |
      • Hmmm

        Maybe you can be Czech Republic if you Greece his palm.

        February 3, 2013 at 7:05 am |
  27. Oblet

    The gay people should open up their own restaurant theme... Butt-Goblin-Fil-A! End of story! :P

    February 3, 2013 at 3:28 am |
  28. Aristocles

    The title of this article is misleading, probably deliberately so. It implies that Chick-Fil-A was banning gays from eating there beforehand. This isn't Jack Chick-fil-A. It was never THAT bad.

    February 3, 2013 at 2:31 am |
    • Aristocles

      And now, they changed the title of the article.

      February 4, 2013 at 2:50 am |
  29. brackenrich

    Chick-Fil-A, you don't know your @&& from your elbow.

    February 3, 2013 at 1:45 am |
    • brackenrich

      Their food is gross, greasy and salty anyways. It's loaded with seasonings to mask the BS aftertaste.

      February 3, 2013 at 1:47 am |
    • Carl

      They apparently can't tell those things apart on the chickens either.

      February 3, 2013 at 6:08 am |
  30. MLC43

    First of all let me begin by saying that I don't like the persecution the the homosexual community experiences. What they do is their business and their business alone. They are also entitled to the same rights as any citizen of this country.
    Now a question I have to ask. How can you claim to be a Christian and believe that homosexuality is acceptable to God? Have you read the bible? Right or wrong the bible is clear on his thoughts on homosexuality. I'm really just curious because there really is no room for interpretation.

    February 3, 2013 at 1:38 am |
  31. Goose66

    "Can I eat at Chic-Fil-A now?" I don't know, can you? The only thing stopping you is you. There are a lot of businesses run out there by people that don't have the same social and political viewpoint as you. Use their services or don't use them as your conscience dictates. But please stop whining about it.

    February 3, 2013 at 1:00 am |
    • Kevin McLeod Bailey

      What if your conscience dictates that you explain to others why you choose (or choose not) to eat at Chick-fil-A? Then, if they complain, they are the ones whining.

      February 3, 2013 at 2:04 am |
      • mitchell

        if your consious bothers you so much regarding the religious viewpoint of an employee or owner of of Chick a Fill, a view by the way that is not part of their corporate policy and not once has their been any record of overt discrimination,
        Then you all need to check every company or place of business from the corner market to the sports teams you support to the medical facilities you use im sure you will find a wide variety of differing private beliefs that may offend you.

        February 3, 2013 at 2:30 am |
    • mitchell

      The uproar over this has been blown way out of proportion The company has never stated that it would refuse to serve or discriminate against gays or anyone else The statements made were private views based on religious beliefs and not a company wide view point.

      February 3, 2013 at 2:11 am |
      • Bill Miller

        You are correct Mitchell, nowhere have I ever read that gay's couldn't eat in their restaurants it's just that chick-fil-a doesn't agree with the gay life style. Anybody with any brains can see it's odd behavior to be gay and there are natural laws against it. There are "in" holes and "out" holes in the human body and you ought not get the two confused.

        February 3, 2013 at 7:53 am |
  32. Thomas

    "God doesn't make mistakes," is certainly an easy statement for the LGBT(QIA) community to fall back on. However, I do wonder how well that statment stands up to fact that God also created indiviiduals such as Jeffrey Dahmer, Stalin, Kony, Manson and oh all the psychopaths shooting up our great country. Now, regardless on whether one's being LGBT is biological or developmental, the right for a company to choose to serve whomever they choose is a basic fundamental right of all business owners (so long as they do not recieve significant government support).

    February 3, 2013 at 12:34 am |
    • FrankPA

      So, are you saying that GOD does make mistakes? If so, are you one of them?

      February 3, 2013 at 1:05 am |
      • Thomas

        I just wanted to see if I could get someone to respond to a post. Regardless of ones views towards homosexuality, the right of business owners to operate according to thier personal and collective principles is thier right. If those principles end up proving unprofitable, then so be it. Still, until the judiciary system recognizes one's sexual preference as a suspect class (the same way race, national origin, and religion are) then it is thier right to refuse service to individuals based on that preference. Change the laws, don't blame the business that operate within their framework Frank.

        February 3, 2013 at 1:17 am |
      • Carl

        A lot of these paradoxes clear up quickly if you just say that this god business is probably a load of crap.

        February 3, 2013 at 6:10 am |
    • Jessica

      No Thomas, it doesn't work like that. If a business if open to the public it is open to ALL the public not just the ones that the store owner wants to deal with. It is called the Public Accommodation Law and it helps prevent things like sign's outside of stores that say "No Colored People", "Irish Need Not Apply" and the ever popular "White Water Fountain and Colored Water Fountain". It's called discrimination and it's illegal as well as despicable.

      February 3, 2013 at 2:12 am |
      • Thomas

        Close. Generally groups classified as "Suspect Classes" cannot be discriminated against by businesses that maintain a close governmental involvement (my apologies for not know the correct term here). Congress can do this through the over expansion of the commerce clause of the first ammendment. To date, an individual's sexual preference has not be incorporated into the suspect class protection, which would draw strict scrutiny (meaning the company/corporation would have to demonstrate a compelling and blah blah blah need to discriminate in that way. A business owner certainly may tell someone that they will not serve them on some grounds. Very subjective (thus why we have a judicial system) but certainly within a business owners ability to discriminate based on sexual orientation.

        February 4, 2013 at 12:25 am |
  33. Michaela

    i have never known any chick-fil-et to turn away a gay customer. i don't recall the sign saying "no homos". as long as you have money, they will take it!

    February 3, 2013 at 12:26 am |
  34. Augusta

    No you can't eat chick-fli-a, stop crying and go eat crow.

    February 3, 2013 at 12:26 am |
    • Commojoe

      Or there's always Jack-In-the-Box.

      February 3, 2013 at 1:44 am |
      • Flooby

        or jack off in a box. It's your choice.

        February 3, 2013 at 1:54 am |
    • MolonLabe

      What does that mean? Is it something suggestive as we think it is? Like certain parts of womens? I hope I don't get banned... ;)

      February 3, 2013 at 1:54 am |
    • Oblet


      February 3, 2013 at 3:33 am |
  35. mattyo

    The gays should be allowed in a Chick Fil A, as long as they use different bathrooms, just like the 'Colored' folk in the 50s. Gay people can also ride busses...just as long as they sit in the back of the bus. RIGHT ANTI GAY PEOPLE???? SEE HOW FRIGGIN RIDICULOUS YOU SOUND!!!!

    February 3, 2013 at 12:15 am |
    • Bill Miller

      First of all there's a big difference between skin color-ethnicity and behavior. This is not the same situation as civil rights for african-americans this is not about rights folks this is about approval. This is about a small group of people working to force the majority to approve of behavior that is morally objectionable

      February 3, 2013 at 8:20 am |
      • mattyo

        'Morally Objectionable'...WTF???? How dare you put your own judgment on someone? Does not your own religion have a phrase about 'casting the first stone'? Look at your own life and the things you do behind closed doors, or if you think you are holier than thou, think about everyone around you if you can, and you will find something 'Morally Objectionable' about them. In the 50s and early 60's it was "morally objectionable" to sit at the same lunch counter with a black person or have a white child in the same class as a black child. Please take a class or get some education in diversity. Please.

        February 3, 2013 at 10:16 am |
  36. ala-kat

    I vet CF about as much as any other business I deal with day in and day out. Unless they have done something so horrific and in your face, I usually don't much care. There is something about everyone and every business I don't like. All of them. I do not see eye to eye with anyone on everything, and know for a fact this is not a one way street. Should I vet CF differently than other businesses? At the end of the day who will I be able to do business with? Dig deep enough and you'll find something, every time.

    February 3, 2013 at 12:04 am |
    • Lola

      I do look into the places where I spend my money. I don't eat fast food, but I've always gotten CF's diet lemonade. It's been about 5 years since I've consumed anything from this company because I saw their application for a franchise, and the questions were very shady. Do I have to believe in Jesus an be heterosexual to be honest and hard-working? I refuse to perpetuate any kind of discrimination – race, sex, religion, sexual preference, or size.

      BTW – when Henson productions pulled their toy out of Chick Fil-A's kid's meal this summer because of this controversy, the corporation posted signs saying the toys were dangerous for small children and needed to be discontinued. NOT a company I want to patronize.

      February 3, 2013 at 12:22 am |
      • ala-kat

        If I were to ever see those type of questions on an application, I would walk away – immediately. Never mind my views on it, they have no right to ask this type of personal information.

        My point was – I don't vet the businesses I do business with. I don't vet the grocery store. I don't vet the vendors of the products/produce I buy I don't vet the pharmacy. All of these at least not to some fine point. They deliver a solid product and I'm happy. If I were an easily offended person (and I'm not), it wouldn't take me long to find something to be offended by with any number of these businesses/vendors.

        I do understand what this is all about. I also believe that both sides seem to have those that seem to be more emotionally involved for whatever reason. Lots of things I don't like, but I cannot fight all battles. I have to pick and chose. This one doesn't need another idiot just howling in the wind.

        February 3, 2013 at 5:31 pm |
  37. Truth

    The sooner religion dies off, be it by the populations growing understanding of how dangerous it is or something else, the better. Religion had its uses, now it's time for it to die. Anyone who needs a mythical fairy tale to fall back on when times are hard is a pathetic failure in my opinion.

    February 3, 2013 at 12:01 am |
    • Omg

      Except Christianity

      February 3, 2013 at 12:07 am |
    • Goose66

      How is your hatred and derision aimed at believers in God any different from those that direct hatred or derision upon Gays? Oh, yeah, maybe the fact that approximately 2% of the population is gay while roughly 90% of the population believes in God (and not mutually exclusive, I might add).

      February 3, 2013 at 1:05 am |
  38. Omg

    Hömöséxiality should be illegal like Islamic nations

    February 3, 2013 at 12:00 am |
    • mattyo

      Homosexuality should be illegal...like speeding.

      February 3, 2013 at 12:19 am |
    • Observer


      The Bible has some ridiculous rules for defining "love" and "marriage". Disgraceful.

      Read it sometime.

      February 3, 2013 at 12:23 am |
    • Hunter

      Islamic Nations are not illegal. And thankfully for you neither is totally screwing your point up with bad writing.

      February 3, 2013 at 1:02 am |
  39. July

    The dead chickens really do not care if you are gay.

    February 3, 2013 at 12:00 am |
    • mattyo

      Excellent question...if you are a dead piece of meat, would you rather be eaten by a straight or gay person?

      If I were a dead piece of meat, the only thing that mattered is if the person were enjoying my flesh. Doesnt matter if they are gay, straight, black, white, red...it matters only to the person whose tounge my taste will dance upon!

      February 3, 2013 at 12:07 am |
      • ala-kat

        might be a black gay buzzard....word is they like chicken.

        February 3, 2013 at 12:28 am |
  40. tata

    Homosexuality is immoral and abnormal sexual behavior, nothing more. They're not oppressed, and their not heroes. All sex is a choice. We don't condone adultery, beastiality and pedos, and we shouldn't condone homosexuality either. It's just so sad that so many are so warped. But there's turning back now! Go marry your sister or your cow...it's love, no one can judge you.

    February 2, 2013 at 11:50 pm |
    • sam stone

      wow. such laser like insight.

      February 3, 2013 at 4:38 pm |
  41. princemwh

    Are you people for real?! Thank the Lord for an organization like Chick-fil-a that closes on Sundays for it's employees, donates (whether you like it or not, it's better than not donating a dime to anyone), provides the best fast food service, and just today gave my daughter a book as a toy in her kids meal. Wow a book, something my kid can actually learn from instead of some cruddy plastic action figure. If only MORE organization were like Chick-fil-a. The fact you creeps are taking jabs at them just shows how messed up society has gotten. I'll continue to support them and if you don't, then thats actually great, at least I won't have to deal with you a-holes while I enjoy a meal.

    February 2, 2013 at 11:48 pm |
  42. SWE3

    If I found out I had a gay relative I would disown them in under five seconds.

    February 2, 2013 at 11:13 pm |
    • Observer


      That's a good idea. It's the best thing you could do for them.

      February 2, 2013 at 11:20 pm |
    • Definition of a Nut-Case

      SWE3. Grow up already.

      February 2, 2013 at 11:54 pm |
    • commonsense52

      SWE3, if I found out you were my relative or neighbor, I'd disown you.

      February 2, 2013 at 11:56 pm |
    • July

      Duh you have a gay relative. what will they lose when you disown them?

      February 3, 2013 at 12:06 am |
    • mattyo

      LOL...disown....like you 'owned' them in the first place?!!!! Gay relative says: "Ohhhh release me! Disown me...release me from these shackles!!!! LOL

      February 3, 2013 at 12:09 am |
    • mattyo

      I dont see what your big deal is...Anal is Anal, whether youre dishing it out to guy or a girl. Get over yourself and enjoy it!

      February 3, 2013 at 12:17 am |
    • Hunter

      Disown the gays and sleep with your kinfolk. We know the story.

      February 3, 2013 at 1:06 am |
    • Anyes Pelaez-Vedel

      What a true good Christian you are! The world needs more people like you!

      February 3, 2013 at 10:57 am |
    • sam stone

      i'm sure they would thank you for that, swe3

      February 3, 2013 at 4:36 pm |
  43. nonnews

    This is such bullcrap. Trying to pick a fight with a brand.

    February 2, 2013 at 10:59 pm |
  44. Mark

    You aren't gay, you are homosexual. Yes you can eat there. You could before, you can now, and you can in he future.

    February 2, 2013 at 10:54 pm |
  45. Stewy

    I heard they were going to open a Roster-fil-a so the gays can still eat and stop whining because someone has a different opinion.

    February 2, 2013 at 10:37 pm |
    • Hunter

      Roster: any list, roll, or register: a roster of famous scientists; a roster of coming events.

      February 3, 2013 at 1:07 am |
  46. cheeseroll

    Get a life already.

    It's a FAST FOOD RESTAURANT, for those hacks who take themselves too seriously.

    If Chick-fil-A is involved in war crimes or crimes against humanity, then maybe I won't eat there, but in America, everyone has a right to their opinions. Not every issue on this planet involves "bigotry", "racism", or "discrimination".

    Common sense dictates that you eat at a place based on how delicious and affordable the food is, and how nice the ambiance is. Other considerations come in second.

    Get a job. You guys are way too free if you can politicize a FAST FOOD RESTAURANT, and none of you had better be parasites on food stamps.

    February 2, 2013 at 10:34 pm |
    • Conservative Veteran

      I agree with you on this one. Politicizing a fast food joint. The Media is to blame for most of this.
      I know I need to find something better to do, I have a great job but the weather is too bad and I can't fly today, God Bless the Troops, all of them!!

      February 2, 2013 at 10:38 pm |
    • Matt

      i have qualms about paying patronage to a place that uses the money I give them to do something that I find morally repugnant. I think instead of the writer, or me "getting a life" you need to acquire some values and a spine to go with them.

      February 2, 2013 at 11:18 pm |
      • July

        Me too but do you know how hard it is to avoid every company that supported Obama... rofl

        February 3, 2013 at 12:09 am |
      • ala-kat

        Just because their values don't match yours doesn't mean they have no values. Just different ones. If you are offended, then just quietly don't give them your business. I don't understand all the chest thumping about it. When I decide to not do business somewhere, I just quit doing business there. If asked, I'll say why. Otherwise, no one really cares.

        February 3, 2013 at 12:13 am |
      • Schmo huh

        I like your logic...it's this same logic that upsets so many Americans that our tax dollars support things like abortion, and we can't not pay taxes without running the risk of getting in trouble with Uncle Sam. At least if you don't like what a company does, you can boycott that company. And I found this article interesting. Though I think she missed the point of the Appreciation Day. If I remember right, that day was created AFTER the LGBT community announced a boycott of a national restaurant. The conservatives wanted to show their support financially for a group that was being attacked for a CEO expressing his personal beliefs. Soooo one-sided. Shame on anyone for expressing their opinions, if those opinions don't follow what another group wants to hear. And obviously this reply isn't entirely about your post, but once I gt started..

        February 3, 2013 at 1:12 am |
    • mitchell

      You stated it so simply and hit it right on the head
      its a fast food place enjoy it or not it was ony one persons view anyway yes in hind sight it may have been better to keep it a private one but it was not in any way a corporate policy of overt discrimination.

      February 3, 2013 at 2:36 am |
  47. Conservative Veteran

    I hate to say it but when a worker tries to Marry a piece of equipment up he attaches the Male end to the Female end and it goes together. Ask a worker what happens when you try to attach a male end to a male end or a female end to a female end, Doesn't work!!

    February 2, 2013 at 10:27 pm |
    • badabing

      Really?Why don't you go ahead and use your imagination.LOL

      February 2, 2013 at 10:42 pm |
      • Conservative Veteran

        Not an Image I want to think about all day!! LOL

        February 2, 2013 at 10:58 pm |
    • c5boi

      Christian and 'values' are 2 words that really don't belong together in this context. Try Christian and 'prejudiced', or Christian and 'hateful' instead' . Don't you think that is more accurate?

      February 2, 2013 at 10:46 pm |
      • Conservative Veteran

        I love the Hateful part!! Really? Christians are probably the most diverse in the World. But because we don't believe what you want us to then we are bigots. I have nothing against the way you live your life. Don't try and Make everyone accept your agenda. Marriage is between a Man and a Woman. Plain and simple, has been for Billions of years and now it should be changed? Interesting.

        February 2, 2013 at 10:56 pm |
        • CTed

          Actually it has been between a man an many women as well.... Why is that not the "proper" marriage?

          February 2, 2013 at 11:39 pm |
        • Speak for Yourself

          There is a massive number of Christians out there that has no problem with gay and lesbian people. For you to "speak for all of us" is beyond ridiculous. You are just another example of someone on the far right being on the wrong side of an argument that you will definitely lose in the decades to come.

          Marriage has been between a man and a woman for billions of years? Really? Please show me the history of man going back billions of years. Since you brought up the historical aspect of marriage, it has been, in case you haven't noticed, a rather dicey prospect for the heterosexual couples that have signed up for the duration. Percentage-wise, they aren't all that successful. So, stop with the "my way is better that your way" illogical argument. Take it from another straight guy - yes, that is me - your beliefs are outdated and, in the long run, you are going to lose this one. May as well stop the bitterness right now.

          February 3, 2013 at 12:08 am |
        • Conservative Veteran

          The reason men had multiple wives back in the time was that they were bound to take in their brother's wives and take care of them. It was more of a family taking care of family thing.

          February 3, 2013 at 4:01 am |
        • Observer

          Conservative Veteran,

          "The reason men had multiple wives back in the time was that they were bound to take in their brother's wives"

          Nonsense, how many of the multiple wives in the Bible were widows of brothers?

          King Solomon had 1,000 wives and concubines. Did God ever complain about that? Nope. God said he was the smartest man in the world.

          February 3, 2013 at 10:12 am |
    • SWE3

      EXACTLY! Gays can have "children" but that child only has the gentic make-up of one which is a serious problem. Thus why the dying out concept comes into play.

      February 2, 2013 at 11:02 pm |
    • Observer

      Conservative Veteran,

      So you are trying to present some kind of argument against gays by pointing out that for many objects to link together they need to have dissimilar parts?

      Are you serious?

      February 2, 2013 at 11:05 pm |
      • Conservative Veteran

        However you want to justify yourself as being natural. Look around, do you see other mammals mating with their same sex. I guess we are the evolved species here because we figured a way around nature. Isn't Nature and evolution part of the Atheist, Agnostic point of view.

        February 3, 2013 at 4:06 am |
      • Conservative Veteran

        However you want to justify yourself as being natural. Look around, do you see other male mammals mating with males same. I guess we are the evolved species here because we figured a way around nature. Isn't Nature and evolution part of the Atheist, Agnostic point of view.

        February 3, 2013 at 4:11 am |
        • Observer

          Conservative Veteran,

          If you looked around you'd see that some animals even change their sex to suit the situation.

          I am natural. I'm right-handed like 90% of the population. Are you and your family and friends natural or left-handed?

          Like most of what you've said, you got my orientation wrong too. I'm straight.

          February 3, 2013 at 10:06 am |
    • Observer


      "EXACTLY! Gays can have "children" but that child only has the gentic make-up of one which is a serious problem. Thus why the dying out concept comes into play."

      Putting children in quotes just shows how unrealistic you are. A child is a CHILD. Gays and lesbians can reproduce and could continue to populate the world without "dying out'.

      Please get a better education.

      February 2, 2013 at 11:11 pm |
    • commonsense52

      Conservative Veteran –

      Male and female parts produce gay people. If you're so worried about the existence of gay people, then I suggest you go on crusade to end heterosexual sex. Otherwise just deal with what makes you uncomfortable that you obviosuly cannot cope with that promotes such intrinsic discomfort radiating outward.

      February 3, 2013 at 12:11 am |
    • Hunter

      And thank you for learning about the birds and the bees at Ace Hardware.

      February 3, 2013 at 1:10 am |
  48. Conservative Veteran

    the Gays and Lesbians and Atheists need to understand that the whole country does not have to agree with them on everything. Family values play an important part in this and so do Christian values. Trying to redefine Marriage is not what America wants, less than 50% of the Americans want that and the rest of us want to keep Marriage between a man and Woman like nature intended. For legal rights, call your union something else but leave Marriage alone.

    February 2, 2013 at 10:23 pm |
    • C

      I agree with you and the same goes towards mixing races too. Blacks and whites should not mix. It is despicable and should remain as nature intended. Just because we all have the same equipment for mating does not mean we should mix. The reason for the different colors of people are because we all know who to court and mate with. Blacks stay with blacks and whites stay with whites.

      February 2, 2013 at 10:33 pm |
    • Hunter

      Mainly they want bigots like you to leave them alone and stop trampling on the Constitution. If you want the Bible to define marriage, I'll be over to rape your daughter in the morning. I'll bring a couple of goats to make it official.

      February 3, 2013 at 1:12 am |
  49. Morgan

    Some people have a deep seated psychological need for everyone to agree with them.

    Don't agree with me and I won't shop at your store.

    Don't agree with me and I won't talk to you even though you live next door.

    Don't agree with me and I won't accept your offer to donate money to a good cause we both support.

    I can disagree with someone and still be on friendly terms. That is a skill forced on me by a stretch in the army and later many years in a large factory with hundreds of employees. I had to learn to be tolerant of differing views in order to be effective at my job. That doesn't mean I cave in to them, compromise, or accept their views just to have peace. I accept that not everyone is going to agree with me.

    That's life, get over it and get on with it.

    February 2, 2013 at 10:23 pm |
  50. Conservative Veteran

    It is amazing that when I post a conservative point of view on this subject it has to await moderation. I said nothing hateful or untrue. CNN is really a liberal organization isn't it. Only the liberal agenda gets posted.

    February 2, 2013 at 10:19 pm |
    • badabing

      Now don't go freaking out- conservative dude.It's not at all like a conservative to be paranoid.Perhaps you might enjoy posting over on the fair and balanced web-site.What,they don't allow freedom of speech over there?What are THEY afraid of?

      February 2, 2013 at 10:47 pm |
    • Hey Wing-Nut

      I am a liberal. Just posted a liberal point of view on the subject. No bad language, nothing out of order. Guess what? It is "awaiting moderation." So, don't get your underwear all up in a bunch and start with the CNN conspiracy theories on the far right. Relax.

      February 3, 2013 at 12:16 am |
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