 Chefs with Issues is a platform for chefs and farmers we love, fired up for causes about which they're passionate. Virginia Willis, a graduate of L'Academie de Cuisine and Ecole de Cuisine LaVarenne, is the author of "Bon Appétit, Y’all" and "Basic to Brilliant, Y'all." As a chef and food writer, I rarely eat fast food. The quality is generally atrocious and much of it is radically unhealthy. The menu offerings are the polar opposite of local and seasonal. There are dire implications concerning worker’s rights and wages, as well as animal welfare and factory farms. It doesn’t matter where you are in the country, every interstate exit is identical with the same usual suspects offering the same sad sacks of chemically laced, artificially flavored fare, all swimming in high-fructose corn syrup. Cheap, fast food is at the core of what is wrong with our food system. Yet, there’s one thing that trumps my French-training and chef sensibilities; I love Chick-fil-A. My favorite sandwich is the classic fried chicken sandwich on the buttered bun. The steam from the slightly sweet, golden brown chicken condenses inside the foil-lined package and wilts the bread, just enough. I prefer plain, no lettuce, no tomato, just mayonnaise, and the perfect pop of sour pickle. I’ve always known that founder Truett Cathy was a religiously conservative Christian. I applaud the fact that he’s closed on Sundays and strong in his faith. The outlets are part of the local community, supporting the schools and sports teams. I admire the work of Chick-fil-A’s WinShape Foundation in regards to foster homes, scholarships and education, food donations for disaster relief, first responders and the military. Service, volunteering and giving back are at the heart of Chick-fil-A, qualities I aspire to, advocate and admire. I, too, am a Christian. I am also a lesbian. And while many religious conservatives think I am going to burn in hell and my existence is a crime against nature, I refuse to believe that God doesn’t love me because I am gay. I refuse to believe that God made a mistake. I refuse to believe that something is wrong with me and I need “conversion therapy.” I refuse to call those anti-same sex marriage groups "pro-family" because that doesn’t include my very real family, my love and my commitment to my partner. I also absolutely refuse to believe that if I choose to marry another woman that I am somehow harming the institution of marriage. Controversy erupted last summer with Chick-fil-A president and chief operating officer Dan Cathy's remarks about being against gay marriage, “guilty as charged.” It led to Mike Huckabee’s crusade, Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day and the subsequent boycott of Chick-fil-A by gay, lesbian and like-minded individuals, myself included. The Chick-fil-A website states that the corporate giving has been “mischaracterized.” Well, there’s nothing “mischaracterizing” about their – now former – funding of the ultra-conservative groups such as Family Research Council, Eagle Forum and Exodus International, all aggressively anti-homosexual. Just this week, gay rights organization Campus Pride issued a statement claiming that Chick-fil-A gave the organization's executive director, Shane Windmeyer, access to recent Chick-fil-A tax documents. After reviewing the company's 2011 and 2012 financials – which have not been released publicly – Windmeyer said Chick-fil-A no longer gives funds to “the most divisive anti-LGBT groups.” For a long time, I cast a blind eye towards Chick-fil-A's corporate giving and, through my patronage, contributed to the very religious conservative groups that abhor my existence. Ah, the power of a chicken sandwich. But, when it all came to a head last summer, I could no longer ignore it. I quit supporting Chick-fil-A and said farewell to my favorite beverage, the perfect thirst-quenching combination of a half-and-half tea. The truth is that Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day was not about freedom of speech. It was simply a thinly veiled protest against homosexuals, period. Those swarms of conservatives weren’t lining up around the block getting waffle fries and chicken sandwiches to protest such lofty ideals as upholding the constitution and protecting the First Amendment. I believe they were showing that they are united against same-sex marriage and against gays, in general. So, earlier this week I drew a shallow breath of relief when the news surfaced that Chick-fil-A wasn’t as aggressively homophobic and had quit funding the groups. The company website states, “Our intent is not to support political or social agendas.” The recent news may have influenced me subconsciously stopping and picking up a half-and-half tea just this very morning, the first I’ve had since summer. I enjoyed it thoroughly, but going forward, I’m honestly not certain what I will do - if I will continue my renewed patronage of Chick-fil-A or not. Truthfully, I now have a bit of a bitter taste in my mouth and sadly, my once perfect half-and half tea just doesn’t taste as sweet. Previously - Opinion: Why I’m celebrating Chick-fil-Gay Appreciation Day and Fast food with a side of faith and Chicken and politics |
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Seriously. Think about it for one second. How is what this business did any different than what was being done to blacks just fifty years ago? It's not that they are refusing service. No, no, no...they are allowing service to gain profits which will allow them to influence the guarding of civil rights and liberties toward certain demographics. That is still discrimination; and, with their power of financial influence, should have received nationwide backlash. Instead, people praised the company, assuming they did no wrong and they had a right...Well, wrong. Welcome to the 21st Century, when discrimination has evolved from direct hatred through physical means to indirect hatred through financial means. Time to update these anti-discriminatory laws because if someone does not want you to have civil rights and liberties, they're not going to say so to your face. They're going to stash some cash in the pockets of politicians to get what they want. I'm telling you: Big Businesses' ability to do this is one of the biggest dangers we face this Century. My advice: Don't eat their crap.
Not a civil rights issue it's a moral issue. Right up there with child molestation and any other bad moral decision. God does not make mistakes so guess what.... gay=sinner.
The only people who believe it is a moral issue are ones who cherry pick bible verses for to satisfy their own bigotry. Everyone else knows it is a civil rights issue.
It's very simple. When you take rights away from a group of people because you disagree with who they love, it's a civil rights issue. No different than disallowing blacks to marry whites because you disagree with it.
Koko, you are entitled to your own opinions, but you are not entitled to your own facts.
I'm pretty sure god made a mistake when he made you, then,...unless, of course you'd like to argue that, since in your opinion "god doesn't make mistakes" when he makes people the way they are born,...and since it's been proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that people are BORN with the genetic disposition to prefer mating with the oppiste sex,...then either you have to admit that god DID make a mistake (in which cae your god is not worthy of worship),...OR you have to admit that god DIDN't make a mistake, and gay people are just as beloved by him, and therefore deserve the same respect and rights as everyone else...
I'm betting your namesake, the gorilla, has more brains than you, though, so I'm not holding my breath that you'll be able to come up with a decent response...
I'm sure it's going to involve "free will" or some such,....and assume that gays "choose" to be gay, and that it's a "sin" because your moldy old book of "divine wisdom" that didn't even have a clue that America existed somehow represents the truth about EVERYTHING ELSE...
If that's your only answer, please spare us all...
I'm pretty sure god made a mistake when he made you, then,...unless, of course you'd like to argue that, since in your opinion "god doesn't make mistakes" when he makes people the way they are born,...and since it's been proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that people are BORN with the genetic disposition to prefer mating with the oppiste gender,...then either you have to admit that god DID make a mistake (in which cae your god is not worthy of worship),...OR you have to admit that god DIDN't make a mistake, and gay people are just as beloved by him, and therefore deserve the same respect and rights as everyone else...
I'm betting your namesake, the gorilla, has more brains than you, though, so I'm not holding my breath that you'll be able to come up with a decent response...
I'm sure it's going to involve "free will" or some such,....and assume that gays "choose" to be gay, and that it's a "sin" because your moldy old book of "divine wisdom" that didn't even have a clue that America existed somehow represents the truth about EVERYTHING ELSE...
If that's your only answer, please spare us all...
No, God doesn't make "mistakes." However, there sure as heck are children born without genitalia. There sure as heck are children born with ambiguous genitalia (and no one knows if they are male or female–no, the DNA doesn't help). There are women with XY chromosomes and men with XXX chromosomes. Some fetuses have their brains washed in one set of hormones when they are forming, and then the body washed in another set of hormones–they wind up transgendered (everyone starts out female, by the by). Lesbians don't choose to have an amygdala that looks like that of a straight man, and gay men don't choose to have an amygdala that looks like that of a straight woman.
The problem here is that people have very few children these days, and they also are isolated from animals giving birth. People who are closer to nature understand that gender/sex assignment can deviate just like a person can wind up with no legs, or no hands, or colorblind, or have perfect pitch, or be left-handed.
Silly statements like "God doesn't make mistakes" don't mean much in the context of this discussion. What is a child with ambiguous chromosomes and ambiguous genitalia–a "mistake"? Male? Female? Who decides? You cannot deny that such children exist–so until you have an answer for what they "are," then bear in mind that sometimes this issue doesn't show up physically, as it is in the area of the brain that regulates sexual attraction, and you don't really have any more understanding of homosexuality than anyone else. Okay?
If god is omnipotent, why did he "make" gays?
If god is not omnipotent, why is he relevant?
God doesn't make mistakes?You might want to think that one through...or not.
Ms Willis, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but not the facts. And the fact is that you don't know what was in the hearts of all of us millions who "appreciated" Chick-fil-A and it's dishonest for you to put that forth, and for CNN to invite such propaganda language.
As for me and my families and friends, we appreciate the Cathys' convictions to the Biblical version of Christianity. You know, the one that our country was founded on but has become a pariah in the corrupted, politically-correct culture of today.
And those that think that they can make what they want of God's Word, don't understand how it works, I'll say I believe. God's Word is immutable, that is what makes it so powerful and life-affirming and prevents it from being demeaned by a selfish human culture, of any generation. It is not something that can be transformed or diluted to fit into any lifestyle that one chooses for themselves, and still be supernatural.
So, if any special interest group such as your own wants to attack Chick-fil-A for their strict adherence to the Word, you're welcome to do so, but recognize and admit the perverted reasoning of a Christian to do that.
you said you don't think God makes mistakes and He still loves you. you are right. He doesn't make mistakes but we do. you have made a mistake about your sexual identity. somehow you think you were designed to be connected with the same sex you are, but remember, He doesn't make mistakes. And He still loves you mixed up and all.
To answer the question posed by the title.....................You can eat wherever you want. Thats the great thing about the USA and the constitution. Its a free country...........If you dont like the views of any established organization or business.....Simmply don't partake. The same way the owner of Chik-Fil -A is entitled to his opinion and views. I'm just not sure why people get all bent out of shape. We are all entitled to our own beliefs, lifestyles and opinions.
Bojangles half and half tea is better than Chik-fil-a.
Opinion: I don't care what you eat in your bedroom, just don't try to force it down my throat
Dont you worry, it would NOT fit down your throat anyway..... Such a hipocrite!!!
My uncle is involved in the gay lifestyle. He is older now and doesn't get the attention from all the men like he used to. He is considered a "troll". He used to have frequent anonymous sex in the restrooms at the gay clubs numerous times a week. Now he is left with his gay friend and he is longing for the good old days. He is now suffering from deep depression and feels very lonely. He "married" another old gay man. But this guy still has sex outside of there "marriage". He no longer brags about his lifestyle.
I am a straight Republican who will never eat there again. I encourage my children to do the same thing. I also don't shop at Walmart. I haven't had Lipton tea since the Dixie Chicks incident. If these companies want to play politics I won't pay for it.
attaboy – vote with your wallet
No one is missing you in any of those lines. Not really sure where you fit in the republican party with the Dixie Chick comment. I think you might be lying to yourself. Democrat in a closet? Who would have thought.
My last pay check was $9500 working 12 hours a week online. My sisters friend has been averaging 15k for months now and she works about 20 hours a week. I can't believe how easy it was once I tried it out. The potential with this is endless. This is what I do, Big44.ℂOM
That's just about the saddest plug I've ever read.
i agree any one who believes such trash are not to bright.
People of all lifestyle persuasions will continue to eat at Chick-Fil-A's. Regardless of what the food looks or smells like, at least it still TASTES like chicken.
Sadly, you don't know what real chicken tastes like. You would probably be even more shocked to know what a real chicken looks like. I'll give you a hint: real chickens don't have 1/2 pound breasts.
Based on your ignorance, I'd have to say you just "don't get it"; and in more ways than one.
Actually, do the tiniest, most eency weency little bit of research into what you eat on a day to day basis. Take a look at the chicken industry. There is plenty of information out there. THEN think about your replies before you type 'em out. "Chickens" are hardly chickens anymore, especially the kind that Chick Fil A serves to all y'all.
Does anybody else think its hilariously ironic, that replubicans are slowly poisoning themselves with their fast food diet? They just don't know any better I suppose, poor babies. It only leads to hypertension, diabetes, heart disease, and worse. Have fun with that, suckas! Oh, and don't whine about your health care 20 years from now when you actually HAVE coverage. You'll need it.
Comment sections such as this lively one always remind me of how stupid the general populace of this country is.
Welcome to the general populace.
Comments such as yours (and all those who claim to dislike such forums or express negativity about them, and yet continue to read them and comment on them) have the same effect on me...
Isn't that strange?
I have heard people are referring to the place as"Chick-Fil-A" Hole!
I do know one thing. Gay people boycotting this restaurant won't hurt their business.Food is to good.
Lol. Not!!!! That is what makes it so easy to boycott.
Knock yourself out! Please!
Phil.
Were you the little fat boy?
PHIL, were YOU the little fat boy?
PHIL, Were YOU the little FAT boy?
PHIL!!!
Chick-Fil-A's food is extremely bland unless you slather honey mustard, mayo, or barbecue sauce on it.
If you want flavorful, tender chicken, nothing beats the 11 herbs and spices in KFC's original recipe chicken. That's why KFC consistently wins Zagat Awards for excellence.
Yeah, love KFC and cornhole Sanders. I mean Colonel Sanders.
No matter what they sell if a vendor is using its business to surpress a view that you deeply believe in, it is moral to stop increasing the profits of that vendor. Period. Chicl fil A might have great chicken products, tea et al, but so do a lot of other vendors. "In order for evil to prevail, it is only necessary for good men to do norhing:. The owners of a chain have taken a stance for what they believe, but some of their customers are standing against the owners beliefs. When the chain put their belief over their profits, it was their choice. Now if profits suffer for their beliefs, it was their choice,.
Frankly I find it sad that people who espouse diversity and acceptance simply cannot accept it when someone does not believe as they do, and will be the first to cry foul (fowl?). Regardless of whether or not I share the same view as the owners of Chick-Fil-A is immaterial. I can choose to eat there or not. That said, their profits have been through the roof since this fiasco, and there are STILL long lines at meal time.
Intolerance of intolerance isn't intolerance.
I wonder if that "intolerance of intolerance" was the justification used previously to burn Christians at the stake? The time has already come when men will not put up with sound doctine. They will call good evil and evil good. The prophecies are being fulfilled.
People have ALWAYS been saying "the prophecies are being fulfilled". Pretty easy to fulfill some prophecies when they're all so vague and figurative!
oakhill, your a fool. those who "espouse" diversity and acceptance do not have an issue with the fact someone doesnt like us or support our freedoms. We simply will not crouch and hide when people are making real life moves and decisions to limit, take away, or reject our equal humane rights. As america, land of the free, with the right to the pursuit of happiness, we are all suppose to be treated equal. having an opinion, and forcing your private religious values on our lives is not equal, and it frankly defies the constitution.
I love this moronic black and white litmus everyone is partaking in. If you cant handle an opinion on gay marriage that doesnt sync with yours, by all means shield yourself like a scared child. In fact lets put everything from cable news to comedy to ...chicken restraunts through a filter that we can only agree 100% on. Lets just see how all CEOs vote and feel on every issue so we can nonstop be some self important little "activist". Sad and stupid. You guys are as narrow as the NRA where any gun law is against ALL guns. Except in this case its a fried chicken sandwich...
There are probably few companies in the world that would meet every standard that the average person has. You alone can decide what you can and cannot live with.
of course you can quit being a bunch of whining babies shut-up and eat
I found the whole protest against Chick Fil A ridiculous and anyone who liked to eat at the place before the owners comments are still eating there and just not admitting it. Unfortunately the very people who protested against the restaurant didnt even realize they were all walking contradictions as they were protesting for their right to marry whomever they'd like but in reality their spectical showed their own intolerance for people right to state their opinions. He was asked a question and the lesbian and gay community flipped out because of his personal beliefs! Maybe the people from the lesbian and gay community who participated in these protests should take a page from their own rule book and learn about tolerance!
The line for standing up for the persecuted is a fine line isn't it? Maybe there's a nuance to it but I would say I agree with their boycott. A personal opinion is fine and dandy. As soon as the company participates in it (donating to ultra right winger anti-gay groups), that is when a boycott is called for. It'd be the same if you we're black, you wouldn't support Kolonel Klick's Ketchup if part of their profits went to the klan. There's no difference. It doesn't make them intolerant to stand up to someone who is gunning for their civil liberties. It makes them brave. Perhaps the people who are anti-gay might be the intolerant ones? Ever think of that?
I love your response, it is so....sensible! No one would ever support a business that was racist, but it's okay to hate gay people, I guess. I always wondered if some of my more idiotic FB friends (people from high school) would look back at their mad dash to eat at Chik fil A with embarrassment. Some of them even photographed and posted pics of their receipts. It seemed like such a strange thing to put your solidarity behind: discrimination. But I think a person has to be a little evolved to feel shame so probably they don't care.
If your little logic actually worked (which it doesn't), then nobody would protest anything. Ever. Everybody would be too busy tolerating each other's opinions. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. That includes Chick Fil-Aholes, who believe all gay people will burn in hell, and gay people, who believe Chick Fil-Aholes are are ignorant self-righteous hypocrites.
I think it's perfectly appropriate for one consumer group (gay people and their supporters) to boycott the completely non-essential product of another group (Chick Fil-A) because of their backward beliefs. Capitalism at its finest, I say. For you to think the gay community should just keep their trap shut is just another example of how repubs THINK that their all for "freedom" and "independence", when in reality, all they want is freedom for themselves. Enough freedom to do some oppressing of their own. But hey- that's your opinion, and your entitled to it. Have fun with that.
Yeah, um, using your logic, the Nazi's had a legitimate opinion too.
I'm tired of being a second class citizen, not having the same rights as others, but paying the same taxes. Or are you now saying that forbidding interracial marriage is a good idea because many people's religions deem it unworthy?
You have 100% of the same rights as other Americans to marry someone of the opposite sex.
By your position – polygamy should be allowed as well, funny how the LGBT community never includes them.
Your position is utterly hypocritical – and this has nothing to do with 'rights'.
You can eat wherever you want, including Chick-filets which not for a moment would chose to stop you from eating there.
I'm sure you would be pretty upset if somebody took away your right to marry.
Wrong, James,...the "polygamy" argument is a strawman argument, because what they are doing, when they do it, often revolves around DOZENS of illegalities concerning the religious sects that practice them (FLDS Church, for instance), such as marrying women underage, kidnapping children, child and spousal abuse, and much, much more...
Marrying multiple wives (or multiple spouses of ANY gender) is not the issue...discrimination based on sexuality is... Other than the gender of the participants, their desire to have the legal rights that go along with marrying another individual person that they love is the EXACT same thing as ANY two people, of the legal age of consent, having the desire to join as a couple and gain all the legal rights of marriage... Not civil union,...marriage...
Wrong, James,...the "polygamy" argument is a strawman argument, because what they are doing, when they do it, often revolves around DOZENS of illegalities concerning the religious sects that practice them (FLDS Church, for instance), such as marrying women underage, kidnapping children, child and spousal abuse, and much, much more...
Marrying multiple wives (or multiple spouses of ANY gender) is not the issue...discrimination based on s.e.x.u.a.l.i.t.y is... Other than the gender of the participants, their desire to have the legal rights that go along with marrying another individual person that they love is the EXACT same thing as ANY two people, of the legal age of consent, having the desire to join as a couple and gain all the legal rights of marriage... Not civil union,...marriage...
i grew up with it, loved it, and miss it – but i can't be a part of it...sorry chick-fil-a, hate is not a condiment.
lol love it
Eat More Kale!!
sick! lol
"It was simply a thinly veiled protest against homosexuals, period."
Yes, you have it absolutely right. When I went to Chick-fil-A to support freedom of speech, what my REAL agenda was, was to promote the inequalities of homosexuals. Yes, you hit it right on the nose, way to read my mind, and the minds of millions of others. /end sarcasm
It's funny to me to realize you probably don't have one friend who went to chick-fil-a to support them during that time, yet you know so much about their agenda and their personal issues against homosexuality.
Yes, buy purchasing chicken sandwiches, you were ultimately funding the very organizations that are set out to destroy you. Wow, what a mind blowing relationship between your love for chicken sandwiches and anti-gay-rights...
Okay, now that you realize this. Let me tell you what your taxation supports.
Wait .... nope. I'll let you continue to support murder and hypocrisy blindly and one day you can figure it out on your own and perhaps move out of this country and pay taxes somewhere else.
;-)
Are you high? What the hell is this?
Passive aggressive smiley face, too. Ugh, what a bitch.
Oh man, if I had the money, I'd be out of this place in a New York minute.
Oy. What a hypocritical opinion. How does it feel to just constantly be contradicting yourself? Oh wait, I'll bet you're in capable of seeing it. Pity.
Oh, please. Yes, I know plenty of people who went to CFA during the "freedom of speech" protest (I'm not gay, by the by). Yes, they were there because they do not like gay people and think that they should "die in their own blood." Yes, they said so in front of me because they don't know my political positions.
There are lots of bigots in the South. CFA will make scads of money off them. However, CFA also will not expand beyond the South, where there isn't a lot of money, and they know it. That is why they backpedaled but quick.
Funny how it is just fine for Focus on the Family or Concerned Women to call for Disney boycotts and JC Penney boycotts and whatever else boycotts . . . because those who don't boycott are "supporting homosexuality." However, when others point out that giving money to a company that gives money to groups that support those who murder homosexuals . . . actual murder . . . then there's something wrong with boycotts because they "suppress freedom of speech."
You know, when you go and aggressively shop at JC Penney to support their freedom of speech and you start to decry Focus on the Family for calling for boycotts . . . then you can pretend that you were supporting "freedom of speech" at CFA. The people I know who went to CFA also boycott Disney or JC Penney when they are told to do so. When a person only supports "freedom of speech" for those who are anti-gay, then yeah, that person is supporting people because they are anti-gay. Have a great day.
So sorry bit fast food is fast food no matter what –
It is ALL the same, and believe me not always as bad as you describe.
It is about MODERATION!
If you ar eindeed on a highway for many hours – the "terribly low nutritous highway joint" is perfectly fine for ONCE.
It becomes a problem when you visit these places every day for breakfast – lunch and dinner.
Visiting a fast food restaurant or heating up a processed, frozen food dish in your microwave is exactly the same, mayeb the latter is even worse -- who knows!!! Start your dinner from scratch and then we talk!
Observer, who said anything about picking and Choosing ? If God is lying I am going to get drunk . Nice try sweetie
God is a lie(r?). Cheers!
And why does the bible HAVE to be written by God himself, instead of just with a little divine inspiration? If fundamentalists abandoned that one little idea, and joined the mainstream Christian thought in thinking that the bible is subject to a little interpretation, they wouldn't be in this constant embarassing, awkward position of trying to justify their hypocritical opinions.
Did you know that fundamentalism is a relatively new idea? Born in the USA. Christianity hasn't ever widely adhered to a literal interpretation of the bible until the 1800's. Why? Because interpreting it literally is obviously rediculous.
Hey Paul Allen,...maybe it's time you get drunk then... Here,...go read what's on THIS site: http://www.evilbible.c*m , sweetie....
Gay also, don't really care if some restaurant owner wants to give his or her employees one day off a week of his or her choosing. But if your going to keep the doors open sell me a six pack on Sunday. Even Jesus (allegedly) made wine out of water he realized somebody needed to get the party started.
Observer, who said anything about picking and Chossing? If God is lying I am going to get drunk . Nice try sweetie
paul allen,
"Observer, who said anything about picking and Choosing ?"
Your comment was in response to my statements about picking and choosing. Next time, make an effort to read what someone said before commenting, sweetie.
This kind of thing is completely irresponsible on CNN's part. There is absolutely no reason to put a link to an opinion piece on a 'news organizations' front page, under 'Just In'. CNN, you are no longer a news organization if you can't properly separate news articles from opinion pieces. This is beginning to make me sick to my stomach, the amount I am seeing this happen in today's world, and I have been coming to CNN.COM for my news for over ten years. If this sort of thing continues, CNN.COM will be but a very distant memory of how a news organization can sell it's soul for ratings and mass agreement on opinions. Please stop doing this now, otherwise risk losing all credibility as a news organization.
That was your whole problem?
Are you new to this whole Opinion as News scenario? It's going on at every news organization. In fact, I recommend you browse around and find one news organization that doesn't push opinion as news, or even breaking news. Yes, it is crap, but also, learn the differentiate opinion pieces from reported pieces. You won't seem so angry then. Perhaps give Al Jazeera a try, too. They cover things very well. I highly recommend their news gathering organization as well as their news reporting. Big fan of CNN here. But since Ted sold to AOL/Time Warner, CNN is a shell of what a news organization is supposed to be and more along the lines of a centrist Fox News with a more liberal slant. Not quite MSNBC, but certainly not overtly right, either. I honestly wish and hope that CNN would again become a proper news agency, but the look at me world of today's 20 second attention span probably won't allow such a thing to occur. Nor will those in charge at CNN. The ones who allow Christiane Amanpour, the best foreign news reported ever, to leave. They have the news sense of road kill.
Try Reuters.c*m. I gave up on all other news sites a couple years ago when it became apparent how grossly warped inaccurate the reporting has become. Objective factual reporting are all but gone, and NONE of the mainstream news sites or stations are any good. I look at a sampling of them everyday to see what garbage is being pushed today, but if you want actual news, stick with Reuters.
Is it a new article? Yes. Is it just in (newly published)? Yes. Overreact much?
Sure you can.!!
I'm liberal,but if a chik-fil-a opened up,I'd eat there in second!
But living in NEw York,that looks very unlikely cause of our local government and citizens :(
I envy you guys who hav local chik fil a's!!!!!!!!! LUCKY!!!!!! There food looks SoOooooOOOooooOOOoooOOoooOOOooo good!!!!!!!
I won't eat there because it took me a whole day to figure out "Chick-fil-A" is supposed to be a clever spelling for "Chick(en) Filet." I initially thought it was pronounced "Chick Fill ' Ah" as in "Fill 'Ah Up" and it brought to mind images of very obese people stuffing themselves with greasy fried chicken. The time I have spent pondering this has greatly decreasesd my quality of life. Their antigay stance just gave me another reason to dislike the chain.
That's just dumb.
No comment on the politics of this issue, but - is there some reason why someone can't make "half-and-half" tea at home? Or even a fried chicken sandwich? I understand the fast food places often have "special sauce" that makes their stuff taste unique, but generally recipes can be found to mimic them. And I just can't fathom that the half-sweetened tea really has some proprietary blend involved?
It's a very complex formula obviously. Makes the coke formula look like a recipe for water.
1/2 part sweet tea.
1/2 part unsweetened tea.
You'd have to be a rocket scientist to get that right.
I'm not gay and I still wont eat there.
Agree.
make it three :)
it's your right not to eat at Chick-Fil-a, but I think you're G..A..Y..
John 8:7
So when they continued asking him, Jesus lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
Common Sense 1:8 He who quotes from the bible will forever remain a sheep. A dumb, close minded, country bumpkin sheep.
Are you describing yourself? a D.I.R.T.Y....FA.GG.O.T....G.A.Y...?
Geez, you folks are a little testy over this! It's chicken. I don't think Chic-Fil-A really cares who buys their chicken. I think they want people who want chicken ...to buy their chicken! It's a business. And one who's food I can actually say I enjoy. So come on everyone, let's have a "Chic-Fil-A for ALL" day! We don't have to go holding hands and all, ...but let's go get a sandwich damnit!
No. Please leave decent people one place to go that is not full of people like you,
After your rude comment, I can certainly tell you that your idea of "decent" certainly doesn't match mine.
Let me guess: by 'decent' you mean 'straight'? I think the word you're looking for to describe yourself was 'asshole'.
now seriously, whos the A*hole in here, huh! Mr. E....C*O*L*I...??????
Can't we all just eat and get along?
You can always head to Douche City. Probably make mayor. It's full of your kind.
I can virtually guarantee that Chick-fil-A is is still just as aggressively anti-homosexual as they have ever been. However they probably just took a look at their year end earnings and noticed an earnings decline that correlated with their mid-year PR disaster regarding being anti-homosexual and therefor decided that the only way to increase their earnings was to cut ties with anti-homosexual groups. In other words, they are hoping that those of us who have been boycotting them since they came out as anti-gay will come spend money if they pretend to be more open minded. I'm sure we are all smarter than that.
Pretty obvious. Bad thing is that most people are too dumb to get that apparently. Just look at the author.
Go and eat somewhere else, we dont want your d.i.r.t.y...G.A.Y....money....
There's too much self importance in America that's driven by media and politics.
You are not a special snowflake.
You are only what you do.
Love all and be blessed no matter what.
If u dig the chic fillet sandwich why deny yourself? Go have one and be happy! :-)
I am a little disappointed that wasn't a tyler durden quote.
There is nothing more revolting and unnatural than two women sleeping together. PLease do not call yourself a "Christian" because the Bible condemns gays. Go make up your own religion and stop trying to change mine because it DOES NOT accept you.
Wow. Strong words coming from someone with a flaming gay name such as Flamingo Kid. Better learn how to read better too.
Haha, so true and great response. "Flamingo Kid" may have an internal struggle he needs work out.
not everbody eats...E...C..O..L..I... like you do...
My name is Austin Lamon and I am a southern white male, a conservative, and a Christian. I think arguing about social issues like gay rights and abortion is a waste of time, money, and political resources. I am more concerned with this economy, our wasteful spending, and the expansion of an already incompetent and bloated government. However, the fact that you call yourself a Christian is pretty appalling. You need to rethink your faith and what it means to be an American. We are all in this together and the evangelical right and the far left need to be marginalized in this society because their priorities are misplaced. It is people like you that scare the hell out of moderate Americans, and turn everyone away from the Republican party.
Please quit describing yourself as a conservative and a Christian when it is obvious you are neither.
Why, Neanderthal? What would you call him?
Oh look, a supposed christian telling another christian they're not christian enough.
Dumbass.
youre G.A.Y. and an E...C..O..L..I... eater..
I read from the top of the article until your response, when I found out all of a sudden we are no longer talking about chcken sandwiches, but abortion? sorry, but WHF did that come from, lets no even go into the comment about what being a christian and an american mean... I am not gay, or christian, or, republican, and I also do not eat chick filet. I am an American by birth, straight, or some times bi by choice, agnostic be believe, not republican by revulsion and do not eat chick-filet by choice. It is assholes like you that keep the stupidity of the rednecks in power and the NRA in control of your wallets. Here is an idea, shut the fuck up, keep your opinions to yourself and stop breeding with your cousins!
100% g.a.y. and an atheist...what more can you ask for?
Take the "o" out of this guy's screenname.
The Flamingo Kid,
Don't claim your beliefs are typical of all heteros. Watch an adult movie any night on Showtime or HBO and you can bet you'll see a lesbian scene. These are movies geared for heteros. Get real. Ask your hetero male friends.
Let me ask you...how are you ever going to win anyone to Christ talking to people like that? Our way of life does not condemn, we are here to be witnesses to others of God's love, mercy, and grace, not to pull the splinter out of another's eye when we have a plank in our own. Sin is sin and it makes no difference which one. Let God do the judging.
Flamingo says: "The bible condemns gays."
I can't understand why people quote the bible and act as though it makes any sense. It is so full of contradictory and in some cases downright psychopathic statements that you can find anything in it that you want, or don't want. For example, the old testament god is a psychopathic murderer.
Besides, there is no god or gods. Atheists can't understand why anyone cares about gay marriage or gay sex. It's a big "yawn" for us.
sanjosemike
I dunno... Your post is pretty revolting to me.
You are an idiot. And don't even remotely resemble a Christian. If going to heaven means spending eternity with idiots like you, then I want no part of it. Oh, and good luck at the pearly gates.
watch out your a*h.o.l.e. is loose...
The Bible does not condemn homosexuality when it is put in historical and cultural context and is read using reason, as Jesus did. If you disagree, please cite a verse.
verse 666 youre dad's favorite verse..
yeah I don't think someone who names themself the flaming kid should be talking about what christianity is like. Sounds like he is more down for the nazi party. or some other KKK like hate group. He seems to also be what is wrong with our society
Jesus loved and accepted everyone for who they were. A pity you are incapable of matching that type of kindness.
Which is why your "religion" is an abject failure...and will be among the ash heap of other failed ideas in the near future.
It's you that doesn't accept, loser. Waddle away.
Honestly, this topic is becoming more and more unworthy. There is nothing at all in the bible that says homosexuality is bad, the bible is also just a printed book that has went through generations of change. Are you honestly going to believe fairy tales also?...Yeah, easy to believe some some non-existent fairy tale being watching over the human race when there are a multitude of people, whether it be children, teens, adults, that do deserve to live be stolen of their life, raped, tortured, ostracized, etc here. All for absolutely no reason.... Your "god" is almighty, but created humans with free will but NO good wills, logical right? All this insanity just so that humans could use some paper book against others who're not a splitting image than them and think differently. What messed up humor this wrathful "God" has for it's small amount of good willed beings.
And you would have pit on the virgin Mary, right?
And they'll know you're a Christian by your love, right?
Hey "Flaming Kid".... If you wanna really open your own eyes up concerning your bible,...go read this site: http://www.evilbible.c*m , enjoy....
This is ridiculous. It is very easy to understand why this country is on the decline when so many Americans get bent out of shape over these meaningless social controversies. The owner of Chick-fil-A never said he was anti-gay, he just said he was against the idea of gay marriage. We should be worried about our economy, our deficit, the lack of job growth, our obligations to our foreign allies, and the turmoil in the Middle East. Yet, we Americans love to bicker among ourselves about gay marriage and abortion rights. Those issues should not even be discussed at the federal level, these are suppose to be state level decisions. Furthermore, social issues are only a tool for the politicians to gather support from the politically ignorant. Politicians have no intention of actually addressing such issues on the federal level but they know that they can stir the emotions of people who don't pay attention to the urgent problems we face in this country. We don't have the luxury to sit around and waste time and money on these meaningless arguments. Gay marriage and abortions (or lack of) will not alter the direction of the economy, create jobs, defend our allies, or pay off our debts. Shut up, and start becoming productive members of society instead of wasting time and money on this nonsense.
The issue isn't the personal beliefs of the owner. The controversy around CF is that the company gives hundreds of thousands of dollars to anti-gay organizations like the Family Research Council and even to groups who claim they can perform "reparative therapy" on gay teens. That's what the firestorm was about.
Regardless, we should not be wasting our time on such nonsense. Chick-fil-A is delicious and these social issues are a waste of time. That is why politicians love speaking about social issues because it diverts everyone's attention from the real issues and they believe it somehow gives them a moral high ground. It's all BS.
Oh, silly us thinking that wanting to stop the organizations that are a ok with harrassing, harmful therapies, beatings and deaths of gay people are a real issue! Next time I guess we'll just sit and yap about how the president is Hitler like the rest of you conservatives seem to think.
sorry, dude...chik-fil-a SUCKS
....Except for the fact that these issues have huge financial implications for the individuals involved. Unplanned for children can be a huge burden on a couple or even more on an individual parent. Having to hire lawyers and jumping through a million hoops to enjoy the same rights that heterosexual couples enjoy automatically, is a very real financial burden. Not to mention that some of us in this country (not claiming I'm one of them) are grown ups and can manage to ponder a few different things at once.
I have never in my life been to Chick-fil-A or any fast food dining establishment before... Although I have heard that Chick-fil-A does offer grilled chicken nuggets, so if I were REALLY in a bind and did not plan ahead, I may stop for those...
My gosh! Is this even news? Eat wherever you want, they aren't homophobics, they just don't support the gay community.
Um,..potpotsie,...they ARE bigoted by the very nature of their donations... The organizations that Chik-fil-A donated to were AGAINST EQUAL RIGHTS FOR GAYS... THIS is why there's been a big deal made about this...
What they did is far worse than merely "not supporting the gay community"...
If you don't understand that, then you are being either willingly blind about it...(i.e. you're lying), or you are woefully ignorant.
The liberals and the gay community are supposed to be "open and accepting of everyone of diverse backgrounds". That is so untrue! You are accepting of everyone who agrees with whatever you say is right, and if they do not agree with you then you have license to call them bigots, prejudiced, homophobic, idiotic, unjust, uneducated, and I don't even know what more. That doesn't sound very liberal and accepting to me!
We are all entitled to our own opinions, whether they are the spoon fed pap from the media, or actually something logically and morally reasoned out. If Chix a fils feels traditional families are the only type of families that are right, based on their beliefs, who the heck are you to tell them they shouldn't think that way?
Quit being such hypocrites!
Does God make a mistake when a child is born without an arm or is deaf? Of course not! So the question of whether God made a mistake with the author being born gay is moot. Does God hate people because they are gay? Of course not! Does God hate husbands who cheat on their wives? No. Does he hate what they do? I believe so. Does God hate homosexual behavior? I believe he does, but I don't believe he hates the gay person. We make choices in this life. Even gay people make choices when they, like heterosexuals, act upon their impulses, whether it has to do with sex or deciding whether to keep drinking alcohol when one is an alcoholic. And please don't tell me that it's different because alcoholism is a very strong force, just like sexual attraction. God knows how to separate a person from his or her behavior. His attitude toward each of us doesn't change no matter what we do because he loves us more than we can ever fathom. However, he does hold us accountable for our choices. I don't believe gay people go to hell for their "gayness" any more than I believe a prostitute goes to hell for her way of life. But I also don't believe they're going to live with God. You see, I believe exactly what 1 Corinthians 15 in the Bible says – that there's more to the hereafter than a simple heaven and hell; that there are degrees of glory. So is God sending gays to hell for their lifestyle choice? No way! But he will, as with all of us on judgment day, hold gay individuals accountable for the choices they make with the tools & weaknesses they've been given in this life.
The problem here is that I'm not so sure you think gays will be held accountable for the same things straights will.
Ralph,
You likely don't believe EVERYTHING in Corinthians, so why pick-and-choose a quote?
If Paul wrote it, do not read it as gospel. Paul had no direct experience with Jesus or his ministry and wrote just and only what he, Paul himself, felt and thought.
Unless of course Paul was receiving revelation.......I've heard prophets experience that on occasion. ;)
Well said.
I am waiting to see how this is argued from the other side.
Sounds like you have nothing against the "way" an individual is you only have issue with choices related to behavior.
Tough to argue with. Let's here from the LGBT folks as to why Ralph has it wrong.
Bob,
I'm not gay, but I'll respond. Ralph makes the same mistakes many Christians make. It's all pick-and-choose about which "sins" you oppose and which you'll ignore. That's why you hear so much about the gay "abomination" (like eating lobster and Alaskan king crablegs) and NEVER hear about the TEN COMMANDMENT SIN of adultery for divorcing and remarrying (unless your previous spouse already was an adulterer).
It's all HYPOCRISY just like the selection of a verse from a book he (highly likely) doesn't believe all of. (excuse the preposition at the end)
you have no idea what you are talking about .....
paul allen,
lol. So tell me you believe EVERY WORD of the Bible and are not a hypocrite who picks-and-chooses. lol.
Well that's just it isn't it? We're all colored with our own individual shades of hypocrisy.
I can tell you don't understand the difference in Judiasm and Christianity or the concept of the Old Testament covenant with God versus the New Testament covenant with God.
mamarabbit,
I can tell that you'd like to ignore that it is the SAME GOD in both testaments.
Yep,Observer, same God but you still don't understand the concept of old vs new.
mamarabbit,
Yes. Today's God is the same God who ordered the killing of children, babies and fetuses and believed that his followers should kill people for adultery, cursing their parents, etc. It's the same one who said that virgins who are r@ped should have to marry their rapist with no possibility of divorce.
Yep. It's the same unchanging God.
Ok, I may be attracted to men, and fall in love with men, but as long as I never have intimate relations for my entire life, God will love me. I can marry a woman, pretend I love her, ignore her as much as possible, and live a lie, but God will love me.
God will hate me if I am true to myself, my feelings, my loves, and my wants, even though I hurt no one by doing so.
Some God.
If you commenters are going to try and pawn off this guys stellar point on fundamental Christianity's hypocrisy on God changing up the game with Christ, then slow down and take a breath. If you really believed that, then you could just throw the Old Testament out and never read it again. It all doesn't matter, right? Christ took all our sins away. So don't worry about eating pork, or wearing a jacket made of two different fibers. Or adultery. Oh, except for that bit about gay people. That part matters. None of the other parts though. We'll just ignore those. But God was really serious about the gay thing. I know that for sure, because gay people are gross.
And Jesus never mentioned it at all, right? Sooooo........... I guess we just have no idea? Explain it to us then.
Waiting......
Being born without an arm or leg can in no way be compared to living a deviant lifestyle. Did God make a mistake when he made pedophiles? They claim to be born this way too.
The Flamingo Kid,
God criticized gays, but never condemned child molesters. He has his priorities.
I think being an ignorant loudmouthed asshole is much more deviant.
Moot point, moron. Think bigger than that little book, tool. God "made" pedophiles and homosexuals? What a small god you have, making beautiful people of all types and colors and abilities, then creating idiots like you who hate them. That is a pis-ant God who sounds alot more like some schmuck a few thousand years ago making rules for fun. Any "Creator: is beyond your comprehension, dork, so don't sit there for a second and dumb it down so that this god acts and thinks liker you and I. Ignorant jerk.
Ralph the bible is crystal clear that all liars will burn in the lake of fire and thieves, murders, adulterers, and homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God. Our only hope is to place our faith in Christ and repent and then we can spend eternity with God.
Uh huh,...and I have a book that makes it crystal clear that if I put a tooth under my pillow, a fairy will come and leave a quarter for it... The only way to rake in all that dough is to take a hammer and pound out all my teeth in the name of the Tooth Fairy...
And after that, since its obvious that the fairy is really rich and craves teeth,...I certainly think I'm doing the righteous thing by going out and spreading the word,...by bashing in the mouths of all my neighbors' as well,....they'll thank me for it later,...and eventually pass on these wonderfull traditions to their kids...
That's a rdiculous interpretation of what you think some divine being's will is there Ralph...
Saying "god may have made them crave to be gay at birth because of their genetics,...and that's OK,...but he'll only punish them if they ACT on those traits he created them with",....is kinda like saying, "giving a child a delicious piece of cake for their birthday isn't bad at ALL,...in fact, it's only natural,....BUT, since actually EATING that cake gets their face all messy,...and we think that looks gross and disgusting,...it's only just and good that we spank them hideously for doing so FOR ALL ETERNITY, in unending agony..."
Wow,..that makes SO much sense! I think I'll go become a Christian RIGHT AWAY!!!!
.......and a ghost got Mary pregnant, and Jesus walked on water, and thousands of people were fed by enough food for four and a body disappeared from the earth and Methuselah lived to the age of 969... and Santa was at my house the end of the December and the Easter Bunny is scheduled to arrive in two months... please, stop.
These denominations will marry same gender couples in 9 US States and the District of Columbia, and have married them in California:
The Association of Welcoming and Affirming Baptists
The Episcopal Church
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
Metropolitan Community Church
Conservative Judaism
Reform Judaism
Religious Society of Friends (Quakers)
Unitarian Universalist Church
United Church of Christ
Anti-gays aren't true Christians. They aren't good Americans either, they are trying to TRASH the Constitution.
If the blind lead the blind they both fall in to a ditch, (Matthew 15:14) last time I checked the Ark was built by amateur's and the Titanic was built by professionals.......
Yeah? Then how come we have the actual wreckage of the Titanic, and not the Ark?
The fact that these denominations have accepted gays is irrelevant. IT just shows how they have strayed from the path of GOD and are NOT following the Bible, which CLEARLY condemns homosexual relations. Like I said, go make up your own religion and stop trying to change mine.
We're not trying to CHANGE your religion,...oh no....
We're trying to ignore it; we hope it eventually goes away...
It's disgusting...
When is the New World Order? I can't wait :D Slay them Christians!
Since when did Chic Fil A not serve gay people? Did we miss something? Wow, the gay population is less than 4% of the population and the normal people are supposed to sit by and do nothing? God’s word says ‘ love the sinner, hate the sin’. I do not believe we’re here to judge their sin, God will on judgement day! Time to repent and receive Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. John 3:16
Less than 2%
more like 10%, look it up.
Jews are less than 2%, so are Native Americans. Should we oppress them?
Gays make up 10%. Many "straight" people have gay $ex, but call themselves straight. Understand?
NC – The Bible does not condemn homosexuality when it is put in historical and cultural context and is read using reason, as Jesus did. If you disagree, please cite a verse.
Try actually reading the article. Then shove your 'normal' sideways.
Is there anything more ridiculous and pathetic than anti-gays WHINING that their intended victims are "the real bullies"?
Lots of griping in these comments about how the LGBT community tries to "bully" Christians. Just so it's clear, it's actually still the other way around in many areas, which prompts the LGBT to have to fight socially and politically for civil rights and the right not to be harassed. As for lifestyle "choices" - the "choice" comes in one's self-acceptance of the fact that one's own body responds only to the same sex, not the opposite sex. A gay person can't be any more straight than a straight person can be gay - it's just that simple. As for Dan Cathy, he can support or not support whomever he wants, and the rest of us can do the same - another simple fact. And each of us has the choice to be Christian or other, or religious or not religious - yet another simple fact, one that all the Bible-thumping in the world won't change. That's life, folks - grow up and accept it. Or not.
So where would we be if everyone had been gay before modern science? How would we have been able to procreate? If you take religion out of it, it still doesn't make sense for two men to be together or two women to be together. Period.
mamarabbit,
If you can't figure out how a gay man and a lesbian could not have figured out how to get her pregnant if they agreed, you might want to spend some time just thinking before responding.
So much for the concept of a committed relationship.
mamarabbit,
"So much for the concept of a committed relationship."
Committed relationship? Like that which a r@pe victim would have for her rapist who she was forced to marry forever according to God? The Bible doesn't have ONE BIT of sympathy for the victim of the lowlife. At least her father made a lot of money. Typical discrimination against women in the Bible.
You're gay. So can you shut up about being gay now?
Honestly, I don't want to hear about your sex life. It doesn't interest me in the slightest. Whether you like to do it doggy style, hate giving oral sex, enjoy S&M or pretend to be a school boy/girl, I DON'T CARE.
Notice how none of the activities I mentioned are preferentially gay or straight? TAKE THE HINT! You know what? I'M in the closet regarding how I like to have sex, too - I've never told which position I like, or how I do foreplay. And I don't want to hear about yours, either.
It may well be that if I - as a straight hetero male - told my boss IN DETAIL how I liked to have sex, he or she might well be offended by my personal style. But you know what? I DON'T DO THAT. Because it's none of their business.
If I came to the office party with my best straight male hetero buddy instead of a girlfriend, it'd be none of anyone's business why. Why can't your business be none of my business?
Please. I beg you. Keep your sex life none of my business. I'm just not interested.
James...you seem a little fixated.
Just saying you are gay or lesbian does not count as describing your sex life any more than saying that you're straight does.
No one here was describing their sex life.
You need to get laid. If you can find someone who can stand you.
No. You are missing the point. He is trying to say that he is sick of people wearing their sexuality on their sleeve. He is saying it is fine to be gay, but why do we have to keep hearing about it. At least that is what I got out of it. If you don't want to be judged on your private life ... then keep it private. Kinda simple.
I agree. Men and women kissing in public, holding hands, wearing those stupid rings claiming they are hetero.
It's disgusting.
You wouldn't BE hearing about it if the laws allowed them to have equal rights pertaining to marriage...
It's a civil rights issue that discriminates AGAINST gays... If it didn't,...then you wouldn't be hearing about it...
Help end the discrimination,...and you'll get your wish,...and so will everyone else who tired about hearing about the "gay agenda"...
Shut up about being gay? Because you can't separate sexuality from sexual behavior? Not on your life. I am sick and tired of people like you confusing the two subjects. If you see a straight couple in the grocery store, is your first thought "Wonder who's on top most of the time?" or "Do they practice (fill in the blank)?" Not likely. So why in God's name would you have the presumption to do this when you see or hear about a gay/lesbian couple? What is so riveting about their supposed sex lives that you would, or should, even care? You need counseling to help you get over your obsession with gay sex. Or maybe, you have a subconscious desire to experiment? Which is it, cowboy?
Yet you still read the article....hmmm....
I think what your problem is when you hear about someone being gay you automatically picture them having sex. If you read the article she said she was gay, she did not say which positions she likes the most.
If the people who have spent so many long years harassing the LGBT had not done so, there would be no Gay Activist Movement around to annoy you. What did you and others like you ever do to shut the aggressive bigots up? Nothing. What you must now live with are, in some part, the consequences of your own inaction.
I saw no mention of explicit bedroom practices in this article. For you to mention them is much more eyeroll-worthy than this article. Your mind is inferring all of these things from your own prejudices. You should keep it to yourself.
Something tells me you have a massively bad case of carpal tunnel.
wow. you so want to be gay...
I love how GLBT activists BULLY Christians and call them members of hate groups simply for having traditional views on marriage. I'm agnostic and could careless about the definition of marriage, but when stuff like this goes down I'm happy to be a new regular customer for Chick-fil-A. The only haters are the GLBT activists who try to protest and harass those with different views.
I wouldn't eat there if it was the last place on earth. I'd rather eat dirt......
Calling out bigotry and marginalization is bullying, now? That's adorable! Oh nooooo, christians are being persecuted, whatever shall we dooooo!
Idiot.
Name-calling, insults, mockery, your own special brand of bigotry and brow-beating. Sounds like Sam has a phD in bullying.
What's the matter, Wilson? Did you get your jimmies rustled? Why don't you tell me all about it.
More dumb Christians who don't even know what the words 'bigot' or 'bullying' even mean. So embarassing. Get an education!
Being intolerant of intolerance is not bigotry. Would someone who was against interracial marriage be a bigot?
And I love how Christian conservatives BULLY everyone else in the world who don't think like them. Liberals, gays, Muslims...it never ends with you people. Hide behind a book that supposedly teaches tolerance and love by forcefully reacting with hate and vitriol. Hypocracy knows no bounds. I hope there is a hell so that my non-believing soul can rot there with hypocritical and ignorant idiots like you.
Christians want to "impose" their religious beliefs on everyone else in this country by passing laws that would deny LGBT couples who also happen to be U.S. taxpaying citizens the right to marry their significant other. The LGBT community isn't demanding that the government force Christians to marry homosexuals. If Christians continue to believe marriage is between a man and woman than they can still promote that belief with other like minded citizens in this country. No one is trying to take that away from them. Again, if they do want to marry the same sex, they will not be required by law to do so. Now, remind me again who is the "bully" here?
The issue wasn't that Mr. Cathy had an opinion - the issue was that he was using his profits to fund initiatives to try to imbed his opinion in law and therefore force it on the lives of others..... huge difference. And no, until he entirely stops trying to get his religious view embedded into law, I won't give them my money to use. I also won't do so until they stop trying to claim they somehow own the words "eat" and "more" and bullying any other company that uses them - such as the "EAT MORE KALE" t-Shirt guy in Vermont.... who's small business they're trying to shut-down.
I'm a former Christian – now agnostic – and I can honestly say I've never been more bullied in my life then when I was a Christian. In fact, it's what turned me off of Christianity. So please spare me your "bullying" rhetoric. You're aware of the Vatican – the Capitol of Bullying – right?
what makes you think that Roman Catholicism has any thing to do with Christianity as found in the Book of Acts ?
First off Paul, that sentence didn't make any sense. I have no idea what you're trying to say. Because it sounds like you're trying to say Catholicism doesn't have anything to do with Christianity, which is non-sensical. Try again.
Congrats on the new baby, btw.
How dare you use the word "bully." You have no idea what it is like to be an LGBT person and to endure the hate and vitriol from so-called Christians all one's life. Some of us have put up with it for more than 50 years and we are tired, and not willing to take the abuse any longer. We are NOT bullying Christians. In fact, many of us ARE Christians. I am an active member of my church, along with many others who are LGBT. My church welcomes everyone, as Jesus embraced all kinds of people and never spoke a single word against gays. So don't any of you so-called Christians utter another word unless you really know what you are talking about. Few of you are good enough Bible scholars to know what the Bible really says about homosexuality and you are just repeating tired (and wrong) interpretations of Leviticus and some of Paul's writings. Better go back to school, girls and boys, because you are not being bullied. We are the ones who have been beaten, shot, killed, raped, and bullied all your lives by you.
If they were actually bullying Real Christians, actual followers of the teaching of Jesus, you could have a valid complaint. But very, very rare is the True Christian in the flocks of any American Church, and that leaves the serious activist wide latitude and plenty of fat, juicy and deserving targets like say, YOU.
More Christians who don't know what the word 'bullying' means. You're just dumb as hell.
One the one hand, I could be intolerant and only eat at restaurants whose CEOs believe exactly as I do. On the other hand, I could be tolerant and respect the fact that others may hold different opinions than me. That's what this comes down to.
That's not really all it comes down to when corporate funds are being used to try to push his agenda into law..... at that point buying their product is supporting their efforts to do that. I don't object to someone having an opinion I don't share - I DO object to them trying to force that opinion into law, and I'm damn well not going to give them my own money to use in the attempt to do so.... potentially enabling them to succeed in that effort.
blah blah blah just shut up it is a food restaurant just go eat and be on your way. Stop trying to make Christians to conform to your way they go by the Bible true Christians that is. If you really want to understand the Bible then pray to God to change your heart and open your eyes then read the New Testament if you don't you just won't get it. Just like reading a book on motor controls with no knowledge of it you wouldn't have a clue. Other than that you won't conform true Christians to your ways or make them except them however they will always pray for you. Just go eat your sandwich and stop running your lips they still serve everyone as long as you don't go in there and make a scene just like the wouldn't except a punch of punks going in there getting loud and crazy. As for attacking the BSA to except it it goes against youth protection policies. If that ban was approved we might as well let girls and boys go into the same bathroom at the same time sleep in the same tent together and let them take showers in the same bathrooms guess that would be just ok wouldn't it. Grow up liberals
Amen Tim!!!
Amen, you giant, arrogant, Christian douchebag!
Tim,
Speaking of understanding the Bible and "growing up", the BIble supports slavery, discrimination against women and discrimination against the handicapped.
Read it someday.
Once again Observer, you're showing that you don't understand the Old Testatment (covenant) with God and the New Testatment (covenant) with God.
Mamarabbit,...where, exactly, in the New Testament, does Jesus say ANYTHING about homosexuality?
What you see here is not anyone "forgetting" there's a difference between Old and New Testament,...what you see here is folks recognizing that all the "homosexual hatred" that spurs companies like Chik-fil-A to ACTUALLY DONATE to groups that oppose equal civil rights for gays,...actually COMES from the Old Testament,...and is OBVIOUSLY still being referenced and used for hate-crimes and discrimination against days RIGHT NOW!!!
That's why these folks are bringing up OTHER grotesqe bible attrocities from the Old Testament,...in camparison the the recent attrocities being committed RIGHT NOW...
Can't YOU see the difference here? Are you that dense,...or merely willfully ignorant?
Mamarabbit,...where, exactly, in the New Testament, does Jesus say ANYTHING about h.o.m.o.s.e.xuality?
You sound like an idiotic broken record!
What you see here is not anyone "forgetting" there's a difference between Old and New Testament,...what you see here is folks recognizing that all the "h.o.m.o.s.e.xual hatred" that spurs companies like Chik-fil-A to ACTUALLY DONATE to groups that oppose equal civil rights for gays,...actually COMES from the Old Testament,...and is OBVIOUSLY still being referenced and used for hate-crimes and discrimination against gays RIGHT NOW!!!
That's why these folks are bringing up OTHER grotesque bible attrocities from the Old Testament,...in camparison the the recent attrocities being committed RIGHT NOW...
Can't YOU see the difference here? Are you that dense,...or merely willfully ignorant?
Ooh, another tough guy who loves his Fox News.
What a steaming load of unmitigated crap! The issue was never that he's "Christian", the issue was that he was trying to use his profits to EMBED HIS BELIEFS IN LAW,. thereby imposing them on the lives of others who don't share them. Had he not done that, no one would have given a rat's ass what the man believes. But he used his resources to try to bully others into conforming to his personal beliefs by way of the law..... and THAT is what got him the negative attention, not simply "being Christian". I know a lot of Christians who try to live according to their beliefs - and I don't have any issue at all with the vast majority of them - it's only the fanatics who think that they're believing something gives them the right to demand that others join them in that who create a problem.
well said sir ......
Rock on Brother
"accept", Tim, NOT "except".
You might get your point across better if you worked on your spelling and English.
I find your comment very interesting. You basically say pray and that god will take away your gayness... Do you not think that every 13 year old kid that is/was struggling with who they are didn't try that? I know I did. I hate that I am gay but am past the point of beating myself up for it. I was raised in a Christian home and the fact that is if god exists he made me gay if he doesn't exist then it shouldn't matter to anyone else either...
Chick-fil-A tastes like hate.
I encourage everybody who cares about "liberty and justice for all" to continue boycotting this symbol of bigotry and oppression.
That's the best tasting hate I've ever eaten. Ready to go back for more. Get a life you big baby!
All this talk about hate, is making crave a chicken bigot, sorry meant biscuit.
This is 2013. The gay hating chicken sandwich was so 2012. Over it!
I feel the same way about Chick-Fil-A, and every other company that uses profit for political causes. And boycotts/basklash are effective on a large-enough scale. When Bank Of America wanted to charge $5 a month just to have a checking account, the outcry tarnished their image enough to make them cancel their plan. It happened fast, and the anger was loud enough that they couldn't ignore it anymore.
If Chick-Fil-A's profit had tanked the day after that comment, he would have had a lot more pressure to walk back his statement. But there are two sides to the gay rights fight, and only one side of the $5-to-use-your-own-money concept. Unfortunately, some nuts loved the idea of chicken that supports a hateful political agenda. Some others actually like chicken soaked in vinegar overnight. The rest of us have better things to eat.
Quote: "The truth is that Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day was not about freedom of speech. It was simply a thinly veiled protest against homosexuals, period. "
That comment is so wrong. I supported Chick-fil-A, and I support the right of people of any sexual orientation. But nice of you to tell me what I really support and believe.
It WAS about freedom of speech, period. It was about diversity of opinion and the right to express that opinion. Regardless of what anyone believes, regardless of their personal views, we all lose when one group attempts to suppress the views of another, to put them out of commission – as many tried to do to Chick-fil-A.
Whatever. Tell yourself whatever makes you feel the most righteous. All those people were lining up outside for a chicken sandwich just over freedom of speech. Sure.
I agree wiht John 100%. Well said
It is a great smokescreen. Nothing like a little self delusion to help you sleep better at night!
The freedom of speech of an individual was never the real issue. The real issue was his use of corporate profits to try to get his opinion embedded into law - to the detriment of others' ability to live their own lives freely and without a loss to the rights expected by the rest of us. Once he did that, it no longer became about his personal beliefs, nor his right to them - but whether he had the right to buy their way into being the law of the land..... and no, he does NOT have the right to use his profits / wealth to force his beliefs onto others via the law.... no one does.
But other corporations are doing this (for left-leaning causes), like Target, etc. Why is it OK for them to do this for liberal causes, but not Chick-Fil-A for conservative/traditional causes?