Bowing down to the demon ramen and other collegiate culinary indignities and delights
September 10th, 2012
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Sometimes, late in the night, the craving comes to me. I fight it, as I must, for the sake of decency and taste and everything I have strived for as a grown-up human being. I cannot...I will not...I must not...pour bottled Zesty Italian salad dressing over a heap of drained ramen noodles and slurp down the whole hot, harsh mess hunched over the kitchen counter in my bare feet. Even though (as I recall) it would be freaking delicious.

I swore an oath as art school ended - my best friend and I vowing in a low-rent, modern-day Scarlett O'Hara sort of way that we'd never again sustain ourselves on $.25 noodle packets, generic mac & cheese, off-label dried soup packets, past-their-sell-by-date baked goods and the other cheap but filling foodstuffs that have sustained broke students since the dawn of time (or at least the invention of the microwave). "Bowing down to the demon ramen," she called it. I nodded and agreed - she'd just always known better about grown-up things like that - but that didn't stop the pangs.

A few of my other college favorites:

– Boxed spaghetti with margarine (seriously - who could afford butter?), black pepper, curry powder and as much shake-on Parmesan cheese as I could spirit out of the pizza place in a napkin

– Boxed macaroni & cheese made with either the margarine or the milk (buying both at once wasn't in the cards most weeks) and as many mustard packets as I could get my paint-stained paws on

– Salad bar vegetables stir fried with peanut butter, duck sauce packets, white rice and an egg in my electric wok

– Baked potatoes with globs of cheap hot sauce or barbecue sauce mashed in with a fork

I'm ostensibly a grown-up lady now, one with actual metal silverware that didn't come as a supermarket giveaway, wedding china, cups not acquired at ballgames and fast food restaurants, and I swear I haven't hoarded condiment packets for at least a decade. But I can't say I'm not physically restraining myself from running down to the dollar store, nabbing the cheapest brick and bottle I can find, and shame-eating the whole concoction with the blinds down.

Let me know I'm not alone - post your favorite college food concoction in the comments below and we'll share them in an upcoming post.

I...have an errand to run...

P.S. Yes - ramen can be extremely fantastic, artistic and artisanal. I just didn't know that in college. Here are a few ways our iReporters like to get their ramen on.

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  1. Michelle

    Staples in college for me were peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and kraft mac & cheese – yes, with margarine, it was true, who could afford butter!?! Sometimes I got crazy and used margarine AND milk, but usually not, because otherwise the milk just went bad and that was subway token money!

    September 10, 2012 at 7:54 pm |
  2. Bernie

    Ramen Noodles Drained with lots of parmessan cheese.

    September 10, 2012 at 7:53 pm |
  3. sweetandessential

    2 tins of tuna mixed with a box of elbow macaroni and some boiled potatoes. Add mayonnaise and hard boiled eggs if by some great miracle they exist in the fridge. And this crazy mix would feed (also an art school student back in the day) me for several days. Almost 20 years later and I never want to go back. Am glad for the experience; it taught me to be grateful for what you have.

    September 10, 2012 at 7:50 pm |
  4. Eve

    Grilled velveeta sandwiches with bread from the day old bakery, ramen with butter or tomato sause with herb packets from the pizza place, chicken noodle soup mixed with ramen, fried potatoes with diced spam and scrambed egg as a hash, (lasted 3 days for one can of spam, 4 eggs and 3 potatoes, spaghetti with sauce (no meat), rice with butter, peanut butter sandwiches, peanut butter and saltines when no bread

    September 10, 2012 at 7:48 pm |
  5. anon

    zucchini and squash sauteed with soy sauce over rice, popcorn (not microwave) and that oatmeal, chocolate,peanut butter no-cook cookie mixture

    September 10, 2012 at 7:48 pm |
  6. Cynexius

    Where did all of you go to college? It's very common for colleges and universities to have cafeterias with all-you-can-eat buffets (of burgers, pizzas, variable main entrees, desserts) at affordable rates to students.

    September 10, 2012 at 7:44 pm |
    • anon

      true but many of us lived off campus and/or unable to afford those meal plans...

      September 10, 2012 at 7:50 pm |
    • Jon

      I couldn't afford dorm rooms with a meal plan. Staying off campus and working was the only way I went through college.
      It's nice to have parents with money but most of us don't have parents with money and have to budget what we earned to pay for food, lodging and tuition.

      September 10, 2012 at 7:58 pm |
      • Lauren

        Jon, that is an interesting assumption. But there are alot more schools now that require students to live on campus for the first 1-2 years, and in addition require the student to have a meal plan as a part of the packaged deal.

        September 11, 2012 at 3:33 pm |
    • pennylane

      you've obviously have not been hungry in college..... who could afford the food from campus cafeteria? .I lived with five other students in a house my sophomore year and after paying school expenses and rent there wasn't much left for food. We decided to grow a garden, one vegetable that was a "staple" was beets. We steam them and eat them with margarine and salt, the leafy green tops where cooked down that resembled cooked spinach. Top ramen was cooked and eaten with melt butter, salt and pepper.....boy those where the days!!!

      September 10, 2012 at 7:59 pm |
  7. alex

    Ramen for sure, with cheese and hot sauce as many others have mentioned. Also sh*tloads of stove top stuffing....

    September 10, 2012 at 7:25 pm |
  8. sam

    Quesadillas with peanut butter, you know you want one.

    September 10, 2012 at 7:23 pm |
  9. TheTraveler

    Ketchup Sandwiches ...

    September 10, 2012 at 7:18 pm |
    • pennylane

      flour tortillas with butter....

      September 10, 2012 at 8:00 pm |
  10. LKT

    Or you could do like my ex hubby and I did (early 80's): live at home with the Parental Units who feed you daily and then marry a girl (me) right before grad school who will work full time, buy your food and cook it for you too. Although his big brother used to tell us he live off of 24-can cases of Cambells tomato soup.

    I kind of feel bad for you kids. But not bad enough to wish I could have walked in your shoes :)

    September 10, 2012 at 7:17 pm |
    • Mr.Steve

      kids? ha ha... I'm 55, started college in the late 70's, couldn't afford to finish, enlisted in the Navy for 4 years and saved up enough to finish in the 80's. I got $180/month for 2 years from VA and only had to tutor part time to make ends meet. Still ate most of the same stuff listed here. Wouldn't want to go through that "culinary" experience again, but also wouldn't trade it for the world.

      September 10, 2012 at 7:25 pm |
  11. Former art student, now professional artist

    My friends and I would pick whatever was in the cupboards to cook at the time. I think the worst "mixture" was cooking spaghetti and realizing we didn't have anything to top it with except for pancake syrup. Ya, try that and see what you think. We called it the Sweet Surprise (eesh). My taste buds have definitely improved since then, thank goodness.

    September 10, 2012 at 7:16 pm |
  12. Erik

    Big Jar of Ragu or Prego (with meat) and box of noodles for spaghetti the first two nights
    Add two pieces of bread for sloppy joes the 3rd night
    Add can of kidney beans, cheese (sliced american of course) and hot sauce for chili on the 4th night
    and the 5th night was a fast food run to stock up on silverware and condiments for the weekend ;P

    September 10, 2012 at 7:12 pm |
  13. Jon

    Ramen noodles saved the world! I ate Ramen a lot in college and even now I still eat Ramen. Ramen with tomato sauce, Ramen with vegetables, Ramen with hotdogs, Ramen with eggs, Ramen with sausages, Ramen with cheese, Ramen with tuna, Ramen with chili. I pretty much mixed stuff with Ramen to make it taste better.
    With today's bad economy, Ramen is a staple food for those having economic hardship right know. Thank God for Ramen!

    September 10, 2012 at 7:09 pm |
    • sam

      Try ramen with hot milk and only half of the seasonings, delicious. Got me through many late nights of engineering school.

      September 10, 2012 at 7:14 pm |
  14. Mr.Steve

    ghetto pizza (as we called it)

    get a loaf of bread from the day old bakery, squirt a ketchup pack from macdonald's/BK/etc. on it, sprinkle some crushed red peppers (from the pizzaria) and top with a sprinkle (or packet) of the dried out parmesian/ramono cheese (also from the pizzeria). toast in a toaster oven (or under the broiler when a real oven was available). Wallah! Ghetto pizza.

    extra toppings... anything (mostly) edible laying around.

    September 10, 2012 at 7:07 pm |
  15. hijabinamerica: one reverts journey to the veil

    Oh yea... love the college food... I swear it helped me get through a lot, even now in this fun economy I go back to my old college staples to put food on the table (family of 5!) My favorites involve rice and cheese. You can buy pounds of rice at a time pretty cheap, taco seasoning packets and cheese. YUM. Hot sauce or salsa keeps it from being dry... these days I can afford to throw in chicken thighs which makes it a meal for real! lol... In a pinch with almost any boring macncheese or ramen meal I was making, adding Petes hot sauce made it instantly better!

    September 10, 2012 at 7:06 pm |
  16. CPA

    I had a job, no help from my parents and no grants... I ate steak, chicken bacon cheddar sandwiches, pastas with homemade sauce, basically the same stuff I do now, all from Traders Joes (much cheaper than Slaveway... I mean Safeway) and drank darn good beer like Sierra Nevada. It was totally possible to eat healthy and normal in college... of course I\'m more practical and picked Business Admin/Accounting instead of Underwater Basketweaving... So I made $21/hr at 21 years old while going to school.

    September 10, 2012 at 7:02 pm |
    • Tired of Blowhards

      Congratulations Mitt Romney supporter.

      September 10, 2012 at 7:17 pm |
    • sam

      You know what they say: What is the limit as a engineering students grades approach zero? A business major. i didnt have the luxury of working during the school year. I ate the worst stuff just like everyone else. but now i make $50 an hour as a 25 year old. you sound pretty arrogant.

      September 10, 2012 at 7:18 pm |
    • sam

      oh and you saying you didnt have grants just says your from a wealthy family, because they wont give them to you. Or your just too dumb to realize that free money was available, I got over 20G's of free money to become an engineer because my family was extremely poor. It helped keep my debt manageable and ultimately made it possible for me to go to college.

      And I ate mac-n-cheese with bbq sauce and ketchup regularly... mmmm mmmm

      September 10, 2012 at 7:21 pm |
    • Neil

      21/hr? What year was this? Nowadays, people out of school are lucky if they get that.

      September 10, 2012 at 7:33 pm |
    • Sorcha

      Well, aren't you special.

      I worked full time to support my husband and myself while he was in college (GI Bill paid for his tuition, but nothing else) and while we were able to eat a little better than ramen, we certainly weren't eating steak.

      September 10, 2012 at 7:37 pm |
    • Jon

      Arrogance anyone? You don't represent 99 percent of the college population. The rest of us eat to survive on what we can make while working through college. Eating healthy is not the priority. Eating whatever we can is the rule of the day.

      September 10, 2012 at 7:46 pm |
      • pennylane


        September 10, 2012 at 8:14 pm |
      • CPA

        Wealthy family? Ya apparently $60k a year for a family of four in CA is wealthy by you and the governments standards because I got zero grants via FAFSA. By the way it's not a luxury to work your way through school. It's a luxury to get grants and not have to work. Like you.

        September 10, 2012 at 8:21 pm |
    • Jake

      I agree with this guy. I came from nothing. Growing up my mom used to mow yards to get an extra $20 so she could afford to buy my reduced ($1.40) lunch at grade school. In fact, the day I turned 15 I got a full-time job on my birthday because I was finally legal working age. I haven't stopped working full-time since. In college, I double majored and piled 15-18 hours a semester on Tuesdays and Thursdays. I worked full-time, M, W, F, Sat, Sun. I started off in sales and worked my way up to working for a cellular company and eventually became a store manager at 20. I made 60k a year at that age and haven't looked back I was able to eat anything I wanted because I worked myself silly to do so. I have eaten tuna, ramen w/cheese, and most of the stuff mentioned not because of money, but usually because I would be out of groceries and too lazy to go anywhere to get something and those would be the random items I'd have laying around. And no, I'm not a Romney supporter, I hate that guy. I'm just someone who worked and took out student loans to pay through college and never made any excuses. I'm sure I'll get a lot of rude responses to this, but I had to defend this guy because he had a great point. You can have most anything you want if you try hard enough. If you have kids to support, now that's a different story, but you shouldn't be having kids if you aren't 100% financially able to support them. Hats off to everyone that says they eat these things so that they can support their kids. That's how it should be. Kids first.

      September 10, 2012 at 10:18 pm |
      • Lauren

        This. "Tired of Blowhards" sounds like quite the blowhard himself. Not everyone with money is a Romney supporter. There are plenty of people who have money but have had times in their life when they have had nothing, and that effects their values.

        September 11, 2012 at 3:42 pm |
  17. Uncle Dutch

    Steam head of cabbage with carrot slices or rhubarb, add boned chicken thighs (preferably BBQ'd) and top portions with 1 pkg of oriental flavor ramen for each bowl. Reasonably nutritious, very filling and if you get the chicken on sale, around $3.00 a serving and would last me a week. I don't recommend using hot dogs for the meat portion, though. Use sausage instead.

    September 10, 2012 at 7:00 pm |
  18. Juan Armando

    Ramen noodles are still excellent. I can eat what ever I wish, but ramen is excellent. One pkg at ten in the morning and one pkg with cooked instant brown rice at night. The college days never leave.

    September 10, 2012 at 6:59 pm |
  19. Anne Anderson

    With the current recession, all of us senior citizens on fixed incomes are returning to those ramen college day meals...

    September 10, 2012 at 6:59 pm |
  20. Miguel White

    I agree with the folks who said nothing new about college cuisine... cheapest food available and trying to be innovative for speed, ease of preparation and taste. In the 80's for me it was lots of ramen noodles, red beans and rice, tortillas, peanut butter sandwiches, spaghetti – some things made on the weekend and eaten over several days. Funny, worked and was in the reserves while going full time, had very little money after paying for school and rent and food but most all of us were all in the same boat and it was one of the best times of my life.

    September 10, 2012 at 6:54 pm |
    • Val

      LOL, I hate to say it but i still love ramen noodles, with cut up hot dogs / butter & garlic/ 2 eggs & pepper/ hamburger/ any left-over meat broken up/ can of mixed veggies/ BBQ sauce / pork-N-beans, there were just so many ways to modify it. Haven't had Mac & Cheese in over a decade. Still i would bet that Ramen no matter how you made it was probly healthier for you that a Mc'D's $1 menu lunch/ dinner.

      September 10, 2012 at 7:04 pm |
  21. Ali

    Dhakadhak Daal, Rice and a big bag of chips on top..

    September 10, 2012 at 6:50 pm |
  22. Dude

    Beer ramen, beer fried spam, and hot dogs cooked in a Sunbeam Coney Island Steamer! MMMMWAH! GOURMET!

    September 10, 2012 at 6:49 pm |
  23. d

    small boxed cereals for dinner

    September 10, 2012 at 6:45 pm |
  24. UWMadison - Khy

    Ramen (preferably chicken flavor), mounds of shredded cheese, tons of hot sauce and a piece of white bread to soak up the juices.

    September 10, 2012 at 6:45 pm |
  25. Zobby

    I usually cook the ramen, melt cheese on top of it, cover it in hot sauce and then stir it up nice and good.

    September 10, 2012 at 6:41 pm |
  26. msp

    30 years later, I am still eating ramen noodles for lunch every day at work. Habit.

    September 10, 2012 at 6:41 pm |
  27. DJG

    Discount baked beans and cheese doused in hot sauce and wrapped in tortillas and then nuked. Cheap and actually provided some much needed protein.

    September 10, 2012 at 6:41 pm |
  28. Joe J.

    A friend of mine had a Sam's club card in college, so I used to get boxes of ramen, stacks of tuna, and bags of shredded cheese. Save the seasoning for other recipes, just stir in a can of tuna and some shredded cheese. That was by far my favorite college meal.

    September 10, 2012 at 6:41 pm |
  29. ASAJAY

    4/$1 mac & cheese, whatever can of tuna was on sale ($0.39 in my day), and a can of generic peas (0.25(?)). splash of milk, 1 tblsp generic margarine. Fed two male college students for less than $2 total. And it actually had a little nutritional value to go with the calories. Other good thing about it was, because it was so filling, the really bad cheap beer at the bar stayed down and didn't create nasty hangovers. LIfe was good.

    Also liked making ramen noodle "spaghetti" – 10/$1 generic ramen and a jar of the cheapest spaghetti sauce available. Lots of quick, delicious meals.

    September 10, 2012 at 6:30 pm |
  30. Melanie

    Baked crinkle cut fries added to frying pan and add an egg, frozen mixed vegetables, and cheap fake deli meat. An awesome hash!

    September 10, 2012 at 6:29 pm |
  31. Current College student

    My secret? Grilled cheese sandwiches, or tortillas, or whatever, sprinkled liberally with black pepper on the cheese before you nuke them.

    Cheap, takes under 5 minutes, I can always find the ingredients laying around in the messy kitchen....

    Meh, not exactly original, but it works for me. I'll make sure to try some of the suggestions above sometime to diversify. I'm sure that it will come in handy during graduate school.

    September 10, 2012 at 6:19 pm |
    • Current College student

      Oh yeah, I forgot. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS take advantage of free food. Part of the reason I love SPS(society of physics students) so much is that it's a free Monday dinner of pizza!

      September 10, 2012 at 6:21 pm |
  32. Squeezebox

    Boiled potatoes with cream of mushroom soup!

    September 10, 2012 at 6:17 pm |
  33. evan mathews

    Nothing new about college cuisine. I use to do this 40 years ago. Tomato ketchup made with packets from burger joints. Sauerkraut sandwiches, crashing weddings for the buffet eats. And it goes on.

    September 10, 2012 at 6:04 pm |
  34. EJ

    any kind of off-brand creamy soup (cream of chicken, celery, mushroom, or even clam chowder when I could find it on sale) mixed into a box of off-brand rice or pasta (ramen noodles work) with pepper or other spices or grated parm that I had on hand... tasty, cheap, and provided leftovers for at least a couple of days

    September 10, 2012 at 6:03 pm |
  35. Ami

    Ramen noodles mixed with Instant Mashed Potatoes and shredded cheese. Also, English muffin pizzas(using pasta sauce and shredded cheddar cheese), Microwaved of course.

    September 10, 2012 at 6:03 pm |
  36. AJM

    if you want to get "gourmet" with your ramen...add milk while it's boiling to get an "alfredo" style. works best with the chicken flavor. also goes great with a couple of italian sausages, a 6pack of which can be bought for under $4 to pair with your 4/$1 ramen.

    September 10, 2012 at 6:02 pm |
  37. Mike K.

    4 for a dollar black-and-white brand mac and cheese. Who could afford butter or milk? Macaroni with cheese powder sprinkled on top got me through college.

    September 10, 2012 at 5:58 pm |
  38. Nex5guy

    I'd go down to the convenient store at 2 am when they were going to throw out the hot dogs... they'd be all dried up from spending the day on the heat lamp rollers, and the bread would be hard as a rock. But hey, FREE HOT DOGS. My buddies were smarter. They knew all the places with free buffets during happy hour, and they'd nurse one beer while they'd eat the place out of business.

    September 10, 2012 at 5:56 pm |
  39. Robin

    -Cook a packet of ramen, juse the noodles, save the seasoning for step two.
    -Beat together two eggs and the seasoning packet
    -mix cooked noodles with egg mixture
    -fry it like a huge pancake/omlette
    -melt cheddar cheese on top


    September 10, 2012 at 5:53 pm |
    • Hazard Buck

      Pro Tip : Use a non-stick pan for the egg/noodle/cheese mixture to avoid a clean-up hassle.

      September 10, 2012 at 7:28 pm |
  40. jm

    blue box of mac and cheese, can of cream of mushroom and can of tuna.

    September 10, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
  41. Ray

    I bet Mitt Romney had escargot and caviar....

    September 10, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
    • engineerfla

      whine whine whine whine. there always has to be a village idiot to bring politics into some kid's diet discussion.

      September 10, 2012 at 5:58 pm |
      • mmhmm

        People need to stop getting their panties in a bunch at the very mention of a political figure. It's a joke, get over it!

        September 10, 2012 at 6:22 pm |
        • pennylane

          Then 'some" people shouldn't mention it.....

          September 10, 2012 at 8:11 pm |
      • pennylane true engineerfla....talking about how we survived college and the village idiot has to rear up its ugly head..... :(

        September 10, 2012 at 8:07 pm |
  42. Grain and Hop

    Pabst Blue Ribbon and Hot Pockets.

    September 10, 2012 at 5:43 pm |
    • Joe Sixpack

      .. good times ..

      September 10, 2012 at 6:42 pm |
    • pennylane

      Lucky dog...who could afford Past Blue Ribbon?

      September 10, 2012 at 8:07 pm |
  43. Gabe

    We used to get $1.00 cans of Campbells cream of chicken soup, heat it up and pour it over 2 pieces of tore up bread and some white rice. So fillling!. Total cost about $1.55. Even though I can finally afford to eat where I please now, you will always find cans of Campbells cream of chicken soup in my cupboards.

    September 10, 2012 at 5:41 pm |
  44. Dixie

    All these years I've thought I was the only person alive who ate noodles with butter and black pepper and Parm. I considered it a dirty culinary secret. Now I feel vindicated. I also feel the urge to try adding curry powder–never thought of that before. My other favorite budget dinner is what my family calls sticky beans, basically beans and rice mixed with cheese. I mix it up by using different kinds of beans (pintos, black beans, black-eyed peas, whatever's on sale) and different shredded cheeses (Monterey Jack is my favorite though). For flavor I'll add salsa or picante sauce or hot sauce, whichever is on hand. It's fast, filling, economical, and not completely lacking in nutrition like most of my favorite cheap eats. A friend of mine used to mix mashed-up hardboiled eggs with ranch dressing, but I could never bring myself to try that.

    September 10, 2012 at 5:39 pm |
  45. Maniac

    If we ate any meat in college, it was always turkey legs. You could buy them for next to nothing, cook them and strip the meat, and mix it into your casserole or whatever. It was a lot of bang for the buck.

    September 10, 2012 at 5:39 pm |
  46. kvl_86

    Beef Ramen soup with mozzarella cheese and hot sauce.

    September 10, 2012 at 5:34 pm |
  47. Martin

    In 1966, hot plates weren't allowed in the dorms. A loaf of bread, american cheese, aluminum foil, and an iron. You didn't have to say Presto. Grilled cheese sandwiches!. I could feed myself, sell the rest, and have enough money to buy more bread and cheese.

    September 10, 2012 at 5:34 pm |
  48. nosaltnow

    i hope awl yuu calidge stoodenz lerned to spel better thin youre posts

    September 10, 2012 at 5:32 pm |
    • Michelle

      I hate you, and I don't even know you! Please get a life. You deserve one.

      September 10, 2012 at 6:14 pm |
      • GAMARAY

        I AGREE!!

        September 10, 2012 at 7:59 pm |
      • pennylane

        Ditto....the village idiot reared its ugly head again....

        September 10, 2012 at 8:08 pm |
  49. QJ

    mustard sandwiches. it is what it sounds like.

    September 10, 2012 at 5:31 pm |
    • Elisabeth

      we had mayo sandwiches

      September 10, 2012 at 5:59 pm |
    • JP


      September 10, 2012 at 6:01 pm |
    • librowicz

      mustard sandwiches are definitely a classic. i'm surprised no one mentioned ranch dressing sandwiches though.

      September 10, 2012 at 6:39 pm |
  50. Sunnylovetts

    Sadly all the cheap foods that are not organic are destroying human health and brain functionality on a mass scale. And yes the FDA knows it, and loves every moment of it.

    Dumbed down public = easy to control herd of non-thinkers who will do as they are told.

    September 10, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
    • newscmom

      wow, Debbie Downer

      September 10, 2012 at 5:34 pm |
      • situationalawareness

        Truth hurts, huh?
        It's only like a full days worth of sodium per pack. It's cool in college because you're young, and able to last through it til you can afford safe food.

        September 10, 2012 at 7:07 pm |
        • pennylane

          Go away......your such a wet blanket.....

          September 10, 2012 at 8:10 pm |
        • situationalawareness

          "don't be square maaaaaann"

          September 10, 2012 at 11:16 pm |
    • D

      Somebody is stuck on the organic wagon with the rest of the idiots that don't do their own research...

      September 10, 2012 at 5:49 pm |
    • i12bphil

      "Organic food" spoils in half the time or less. There are no adverse health effects from eating non "organic" food with the exception of a lack of paranoia and not possessing a feeling of smug undeserved superiority.

      September 10, 2012 at 5:59 pm |
      • situationalawareness

        Yes.. there is.
        Read before you open your mouth.

        September 10, 2012 at 7:08 pm |
      • lagne

        There is no RECORD of adverse effects. That's not the same as "There ARE no adverse effects."

        Read. With a totally open mind. You'll be shocked at what nobody's telling you about your health, just to make a buck.

        September 10, 2012 at 7:30 pm |
        • Sorcha

          And you'd be surprised what people will make up and tell you, to get you to spend more money.

          September 10, 2012 at 7:38 pm |
        • situationalawareness

          There are records, though. Medical reports, dietitian analysis, chemical toxicology reports, etc.
          Sodium in large doses is deadly. News at 11. Haven't even reached the organic vs non-organic bit.
          As far as that It's a given, if chemicals are in something it's not as healthy as being without said chemical. It's not even something that can be discussed, it's like trying to argue that cigarettes don't cause cancer it's just the oxygen included when inhaled...

          September 10, 2012 at 11:26 pm |
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